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Gelsons Dad said:
hahahaha!

Group think at it's best.

What you and all your institutionalised chums need to do is compare predictions to outcomes so far and use that to qualify and correct your bias.
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You live in a dream, the people tasked to get this done can't get it done, because it is undoable in any way other than "fuck up".
 
west didsblue said:
I mentioned Corbyn to him because he was his biggest fan on here during the labour leadership contest. It wasn't just the right wing that won. Many traditionally labour areas voted for Brexit and that's where Corbyn was missing.
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I think he was 'missing' because he feels these areas had their heavy industry destroyed by in part EU policy, and he wasnt going to tell the turkeys to keep votingvfor Xmas.
 
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So yes, I'm angry, you've fucked my country and handed it over to the tender mercies of Ian Duncan Smith, Rupert Murdoch and tens of thousands of Mike Ashley's[/QUOTE]
yes, that's right, leave it in the hands of those socialist wankers in Belgium, you have not got a clue what you are talking about. if the eu is that good then surely any referendum should be allowed should it not, in any nation. you completely ignore the fuckin mess in the med as if it dosent matter. you are a blind socialist who would happily give away our nation for your stupid ideals. will you cry when the eu collapses? its inevitable, is it not?
 
west didsblue said:
More like the people tasked to do it don't want to make a success of it so they can say I told you so.
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You might run your life as if you're still in the playground but I don't and nether do the people tasked with doing this, whatever this is.

You don't realise just how sinister you sound. Civil servants, many of them highly regarded professionals with years of experience are being accused of being fifth columnists because they won't tell lies on behalf of their masters and if this project fails, we all know the scapegoating will really kick in. I suppose you should be congratulated for being ahead of the curve. I could very easily imagine you enjoying pointing out the culprits to the "authorities".

I return to the final paragraph of his Sir Ivan Rogers farewell email to his staff

"I hope you will continue to challenge ill-founded arguments and muddled thinking and that you will never be afraid to speak the truth to those in power. I hope that you will support each other in those difficult moments where you have to deliver messages that are disagreeable to those who need to hear them."

Your way lies rigid orthodoxy where only yes men are valued and where people of integrity are abandoned to the chasm between what is said and what is done. Believe me this job will be done with professionalism and impartiality. Fortunately people like you are only found amongst the political classes, the people who get things done are capable, practical people not prone to plucking half arsed nonsense out of their backside.

Oh, and by the way, fuck you, I love this country, to say I would relish a fuck up where peoples lives are ruined in order that I might take some smug self satisfaction in saying "I told you so" is profoundly insulting, but then you strike me as a "us and them" kinda guy.
 
The perfect fumble said:
You might run your life as if you're still in the playground but I don't and nether do the people tasked with doing this, whatever this is.

You don't realise just how sinister you sound. Civil servants, many of them highly regarded professionals with years of experience are being accused of being fifth columnists because they won't tell lies on behalf of their masters and if this project fails, we all know the scapegoating will really kick in. I suppose you should be congratulated for being ahead of the curve. I could very easily imagine you enjoying pointing out the culprits to the "authorities".

I return to the final paragraph of his Sir Ivan Rogers farewell email to his staff

"I hope you will continue to challenge ill-founded arguments and muddled thinking and that you will never be afraid to speak the truth to those in power. I hope that you will support each other in those difficult moments where you have to deliver messages that are disagreeable to those who need to hear them."

Your way lies rigid orthodoxy where only yes men are valued and where people of integrity are abandoned to the chasm between what is said and what is done. Believe me this job will be done with professionalism and impartiality. Fortunately people like you are only found amongst the political classes, the people who get things done are capable, practical people not prone to plucking half arsed nonsense out of their backside.

Oh, and by the way, fuck you, I love this country, to say I would relish a fuck up where peoples lives are ruined in order that I might take some smug self satisfaction in saying "I told you so" is profoundly insulting, but then you strike me as a "us and them" kinda guy.
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I was probably wrong implying that people you work with are the same as you. However you've already told me that I've capitulated implying that you haven't so you're still fighting against Brexit. How the fuck can you work for the best deal for this country while you're fighting against the whole concept.

If you can't hack it, resign and let someone who wants to fight for the best deal for this country do it. Maybe you should go back to exporting. What was it you exported anyway? Fanny wipes? And you can fuck off as well.
 
The perfect fumble said:
You might run your life as if you're still in the playground but I don't and nether do the people tasked with doing this, whatever this is.

You don't realise just how sinister you sound. Civil servants, many of them highly regarded professionals with years of experience are being accused of being fifth columnists because they won't tell lies on behalf of their masters and if this project fails, we all know the scapegoating will really kick in. I suppose you should be congratulated for being ahead of the curve. I could very easily imagine you enjoying pointing out the culprits to the "authorities".

I return to the final paragraph of his Sir Ivan Rogers farewell email to his staff

"I hope you will continue to challenge ill-founded arguments and muddled thinking and that you will never be afraid to speak the truth to those in power. I hope that you will support each other in those difficult moments where you have to deliver messages that are disagreeable to those who need to hear them."

Your way lies rigid orthodoxy where only yes men are valued and where people of integrity are abandoned to the chasm between what is said and what is done. Believe me this job will be done with professionalism and impartiality. Fortunately people like you are only found amongst the political classes, the people who get things done are capable, practical people not prone to plucking half arsed nonsense out of their backside.

Oh, and by the way, fuck you, I love this country, to say I would relish a fuck up where peoples lives are ruined in order that I might take some smug self satisfaction in saying "I told you so" is profoundly insulting, but then you strike me as a "us and them" kinda guy.
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You are in the wrong job then it really is that simple.

Get on with it, do what it is you are being paid to do or let someone else do it.

Harsh i know but its the reality of the situation because as a civil servant, have an opinion and express it by all means but then just do as the government of the day tells you to do.
 
blueinsa said:
You are in the wrong job then it really is that simple.

Get on with it, do what it is you are being paid to do or let someone else do it.

Harsh i know but its the reality of the situation because as a civil servant, have an opinion and express it by all means but then just do as the government of the day tells you to do.
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I'm not a civil servant, I'm not bound by their rules, but this get on with it is nonsense, it is bizarre, get on with what? And when the "what" is decided what does a civil servant do if they go to their boss with the reality of a situation and that reality is politically inconvenient? One of the central problems these last 30 years or so has been the politicisation of the civil service and their resistance to it, that is why so much is now shunted out to the private sector (though that is not the only reason).

No government can ask people to lie on their behalf but civil servants are increasingly required to do so, when I go to see companies with the weak sauce bullshit the government is producing they just laugh in response, it's not that the government line is ludicrous, it is, it preposterous and makes no sense, no one can take it seriously.

The fact that Hammond is now threatening to turn the UK into a tax haven before the negotiations have even begun and the Governor of the Bank of England is talking up the City is not a clever ploy to up the ante before they sit down and start haggling, it's because they know they have no credible negotiating stance, they have little or no leverage, no goodwill and a hostile EU with any one of its 27 member capable of scuppering even the least worst deal.

This process will take many years, fifteen years is the figure most banded about, and everyone involved in the process accepts as a given, because all the evidence points in that direction, that we will be poorer than if we had stayed in, more unequal and the retirement age will be shunted up yet again, that isn't because they want these things, it's because every credible forecast from everyone, everywhere, points in that direction and the facts back it up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38632140

Pound falls ahead of Theresa May Brexit speech...

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The pound has fallen against the dollar to below $1.20 ahead of a key speech from Theresa May on Brexit this week.

And so it begins.
 
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The perfect fumble said:
I'm not a civil servant, I'm not bound by their rules, but this get on with it is nonsense, it is bizarre, get on with what? And when the "what" is decided what does a civil servant do if they go to their boss with the reality of a situation and that reality is politically inconvenient? One of the central problems these last 30 years or so has been the politicisation of the civil service and their resistance to it, that is why so much is now shunted out to the private sector (though that is not the only reason).

No government can ask people to lie on their behalf but civil servants are increasingly required to do so, when I go to see companies with the weak sauce bullshit the government is producing they just laugh in response, it's not that the government line is ludicrous, it is, it preposterous and makes no sense, no one can take it seriously.

The fact that Hammond is now threatening to turn the UK into a tax haven before the negotiations have even begun and the Governor of the Bank of England is talking up the City is not a clever ploy to up the ante before they sit down and start haggling, it's because they know they have no credible negotiating stance, they have little or no leverage, no goodwill and a hostile EU with any one of its 27 member capable of scuppering even the least worst deal.

This process will take many years, fifteen years is the figure most banded about, and everyone involved in the process accepts as a given, because all the evidence points in that direction, that we will be poorer than if we had stayed in, more unequal and the retirement age will be shunted up yet again, that isn't because they want these things, it's because every credible forecast from everyone, everywhere, points in that direction and the facts back it up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38632140

Pound falls ahead of Theresa May Brexit speech...

_93580390_maypa.jpg


The pound has fallen against the dollar to below $1.20 ahead of a key speech from Theresa May on Brexit this week.

And so it begins.
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Pound fell to 1.05 against the dollar in 1985,how long ago did she give this speech,amazingly currencies go up and down all the time.
 
Yeah I noticed that the clueless Mother Theresa is booked to make a speech and the pound falls still further. Seems currency markets don't share the optimism of some on here of the outcome of Brexit. If we accept that the pound was over valued pre-vote there has to come a point where the falling pound moves from export asset into world liability?
 
i kne albert davy said:
Pound fell to 1.05 against the dollar in 1985,how long ago did she give this speech,amazingly currencies go up and down all the time.
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she hasn't yet - its just the suggestion that she will that has caused the pound to fall. See what the content of the speech does.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Yeah I noticed that the clueless Mother Theresa is booked to make a speech and the pound falls still further. Seems currency markets don't share the optimism of some on here of the outcome of Brexit. If we accept that the pound was over valued pre-vote there has to come a point where the falling pound moves from export asset into world liability?
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Most finance houses now reckon the pounds under valued, you know what people who spent their time trading in currency are like someone will make a killing somewhere along the line.
 
i kne albert davy said:
Most finance houses now reckon the pounds under valued, you know what people who spent their time trading in currency are like someone will make a killing somewhere along the line.
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thats the folks who make a commission on trades on the way up and trades on the way down? Well fancy that - they told us it was overvalued - fucking sharks.
 
i kne albert davy said:
Nice work if you can get it though,beats getting your hands dirty.
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yep sure does - get your bonus - salt it away off shore jobs a good un. Tax you say? Nah mate thats for the proles on PAYE - my tax affairs are "complicated" so I can do more or less as I please.....
 
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