Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

tolmie's hairdoo said:
I genuinely never anticipated some degree of disappointment towards the best manager in the world wanting to stay in shitty rainy Manchester for longer than three years?

It would sadly seem the full metamorphosis of many a City fan is now fully complete?

A self-entitlement which has leeched its way in from the days of "we'll buy your club, and burn it down", to being now totally blinded as to what it means to be a supporter of this club in the first instance?

The team isn't performing but players will always come and go.

Unfortunately, we seem stuck with a majority of fans who don't even seem to enjoy being a City fan these days, which bizarrely seem to deliver its own contentment?

It's seemingly the older fans, too? Not the younger ones, but the ones who have shown amazing loyalty during the shittiest of times, yet now feel like the club is their own little fiefdom/drinking club and just have to sit back and await its rewards?

It's a two-way street. Pep is backing his entire career and reputation on doing the business for us.

It's a while since I felt we were actually backing both the manager of the club and its team.
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Our fans have always moaned - nothing new. Yes, we turned up when we were shit, but we fucking moaned about it. We've always slagged our players, some of the abuse Edgehill took was beyond anything on here.

We're just a bunch of moaning faced bastards. Even when Aguero scored that 94th minute winner, I bet there were fans on that very day moaning about how the fuck we conceded two against QPR.
 
Dodge said:
I don't think its the majority of fans, maybe a fair quantity on this forum, but Bluemoon is hardly indicative of the support generally.

Personally, I'd give him 10 years, so I can just sit back and enjoy the ride...
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Bluemoon might not be, but you think the atmosphere at home games helps the team?
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I genuinely never anticipated some degree of disappointment towards the best manager in the world wanting to stay in shitty rainy Manchester for longer than three years?

It would sadly seem the full metamorphosis of many a City fan is now fully complete?

A self-entitlement which has leeched its way in from the days of "we'll buy your club, and burn it down", to being now totally blinded as to what it means to be a supporter of this club in the first instance?

The team isn't performing but players will always come and go.

Unfortunately, we seem stuck with a majority of fans who don't even seem to enjoy being a City fan these days, which bizarrely seem to deliver its own contentment?

It's seemingly the older fans, too? Not the younger ones, but the ones who have shown amazing loyalty during the shittiest of times, yet now feel like the club is their own little fiefdom/drinking club and just have to sit back and await its rewards?

It's a two-way street. Pep is backing his entire career and reputation on doing the business for us.

It's a while since I felt we were actually backing both the manager of the club and its team.
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For me it's not disappointment. It just seems bizarre rewarding a manager with a new deal when he has underperformed so far. I don't want him out by any stretch but I also don't want him to feel he is invincible and regardless of how he and the team performs he is always safe. Similar to when many people moan a player doesn't have competition for their place and they become complacent. That's my worry especially after how dejected and unmotivated he was on the side-lines Sunday.

People seem to think he is doing us a favour being here? He is being paid handsomely to come and carry his success on. Past achievements shouldn't make him invincible, he needs to dig deep and turn it around and I fully hope he does. I also want him to have the time to do it. We waited for this moment, we put all our eggs in this one basket and we need it to work and we need Pep to deliver.

Also they might not believe it, they might still be angry from your Pogba info when I lumped on him joining us last year haha (that's a joke)
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I genuinely never anticipated some degree of disappointment towards the best manager in the world wanting to stay in shitty rainy Manchester for longer than three years?

It would sadly seem the full metamorphosis of many a City fan is now fully complete?

A self-entitlement which has leeched its way in from the days of "we'll buy your club, and burn it down", to being now totally blinded as to what it means to be a supporter of this club in the first instance?

The team isn't performing but players will always come and go.

Unfortunately, we seem stuck with a majority of fans who don't even seem to enjoy being a City fan these days, which bizarrely seem to deliver its own contentment?

It's seemingly the older fans, too? Not the younger ones, but the ones who have shown amazing loyalty during the shittiest of times, yet now feel like the club is their own little fiefdom/drinking club and just have to sit back and await its rewards?

It's a two-way street. Pep is backing his entire career and reputation on doing the business for us.

It's a while since I felt we were actually backing both the manager of the club and its team.
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Not from me Tolmie...glad to read that he will be prolonging his stay with our club, he needs time to get it right and no quick fix was ever on the cards in my book. We as fans and the club have coveted this manager for years and now we have him we, we have to back him.

Because results have not gone our way, with a change in playing style with players coming to the end of their careers what did some expect - for us to dominate the league and Europe straight away !! it was never going to happen and this season was, in my book, going to have lots of ups and downs.

We are in a period of our club history, that I never thought would happen. I for one am thankful and enjoying every bloody minute of it.
 
BillyShears said:
They'll do it in a heartbeat. Just watch.
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*In a heartbeat.

Pep wants to win, but he will make no apologies for doing it his way and if that includes the greatest player ever.

FFS, Ibrahimovic, is seven years older and we are constantly being told how that gypo has conquered the Premier League.

Messi pays for himself. I do think it would see Aguero or Silva gone though.
 
Tom_mcfc said:
For me it's not disappointment. It just seems bizarre rewarding a manager with a new deal when he has underperformed so far. I don't want him out by any stretch but I also don't want him to feel he is invincible and regardless of how he and the team performs he is always safe. Similar to when many people moan a player doesn't have competition for their place and they become complacent. That's my worry especially after how dejected and unmotivated he was on the side-lines Sunday.

People seem to think he is doing us a favour being here? He is being paid handsomely to come and carry his success on. Past achievements shouldn't make him invincible, he needs to dig deep and turn it around and I fully hope he does. I also want him to have the time to do it. We waited for this moment, we put all our eggs in this one basket and we need it to work and we need Pep to deliver.

Also they might not believe it, they might still be angry from your Pogba info when I lumped on him joining us last year haha (that's a joke)
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Fair points, you'd think MCFC hadnt existed before Pep arrived or that we are fucked when his contract has ended- hopefully in ten years time. Its players passing the fucking ball to each other for fucks sake-he didn't invent the game.
 
Dodge said:
I don't think its the majority of fans, maybe a fair quantity on this forum, but Bluemoon is hardly indicative of the support generally.

Personally, I'd give him 10 years, so I can just sit back and enjoy the ride...
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totally agree...with you on that one
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
*In a heartbeat.

Pep wants to win, but he will make no apologies for doing it his way and if that includes the greatest player ever.

FFS, Ibrahimovic, is seven years older and we are constantly being told how that gypo has conquered the Premier League.

Messi pays for himself. I do think it would see Aguero or Silva gone though.
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Aguero all round game has been poor for the last two seasons can't see pep keeping him
 
malg said:
Our fans have always moaned - nothing new. Yes, we turned up when we were shit, but we fucking moaned about it. We've always slagged our players, some of the abuse Edgehill took was beyond anything on here.

We're just a bunch of moaning faced bastards. Even when Aguero scored that 94th minute winner, I bet there were fans on that very day moaning about how the fuck we conceded two against QPR.
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You must sit near me ;)

We are debating the merits of whether it's a good thing that Pep wants to stay for longer than three years.

Only at this club.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I genuinely never anticipated some degree of disappointment towards the best manager in the world wanting to stay in shitty rainy Manchester for longer than three years?

It would sadly seem the full metamorphosis of many a City fan is now fully complete?

A self-entitlement which has leeched its way in from the days of "we'll buy your club, and burn it down", to being now totally blinded as to what it means to be a supporter of this club in the first instance?

The team isn't performing but players will always come and go.

Unfortunately, we seem stuck with a majority of fans who don't even seem to enjoy being a City fan these days, which bizarrely seem to deliver its own contentment?

It's seemingly the older fans, too? Not the younger ones, but the ones who have shown amazing loyalty during the shittiest of times, yet now feel like the club is their own little fiefdom/drinking club and just have to sit back and await its rewards?

It's a two-way street. Pep is backing his entire career and reputation on doing the business for us.

It's a while since I felt we were actually backing both the manager of the club and its team.
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This is a good post. Especially the last sentence which is something we haven't done for a long time, and is long overdue.

I have been very underwhelmed by Pep so far and have said so. Maybe I was taken in by the legions of posters on here these last three years who rained death and destruction on Pellers without any interference from the mods for being "shite" and "a fucking senile corpse" for only winning three trophies and a CL semi final, and maybe I believed them when they said, in every match and post match thread for years that, "just you wait until Pep arrives. He'll have us ripping up trees from day one" etc.

But all that being said, if Pep does/has sign(ed) an extension this can ONLY be a good thing. It means he takes the job seriously and is determined to see it through, it means the club back him for the long term which city have been lacking with all our managers since before the takeover. Less importantly to me but still Important overall it means the hacks and racists in the British media won't be able to write page after page about how Pep wasn't good enough to overcome tactical geniuses such as Bruce, warnock,dyche,pulis et al.

It's a win win for me.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
*In a heartbeat.

Pep wants to win, but he will make no apologies for doing it his way and if that includes the greatest player ever.

FFS, Ibrahimovic, is seven years older and we are constantly being told how that gypo has conquered the Premier League.

Messi pays for himself. I do think it would see Aguero or Silva gone though.
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If Messi came tomorrow, it wouldn't "fix" us though, would it. He'd come here, show moments of brilliance, but overall just be underwhelming (like he has been in pretty much every world cup game). We'd be no better off as a team and would simply be where we are now only with an even bigger name failing to put us at the top of the world order.

What we need is a sustained period of building, i.e. exactly what Pep has been brought on board to do.

It may or may not be financially viable, but either way I think it would be the wrong thing to do to sign Messi.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I genuinely never anticipated some degree of disappointment towards the best manager in the world wanting to stay in shitty rainy Manchester for longer than three years?

It would sadly seem the full metamorphosis of many a City fan is now fully complete?

A self-entitlement which has leeched its way in from the days of "we'll buy your club, and burn it down", to being now totally blinded as to what it means to be a supporter of this club in the first instance?

The team isn't performing but players will always come and go.

Unfortunately, we seem stuck with a majority of fans who don't even seem to enjoy being a City fan these days, which bizarrely seem to deliver its own contentment?

It's seemingly the older fans, too? Not the younger ones, but the ones who have shown amazing loyalty during the shittiest of times, yet now feel like the club is their own little fiefdom/drinking club and just have to sit back and await its rewards?

It's a two-way street. Pep is backing his entire career and reputation on doing the business for us.

It's a while since I felt we were actually backing both the manager of the club and its team.
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At first I was tempted to post agreement with Dodge and say it's not a majority of City fans but a vocal minority. However thinking about it, you might be correct. We can all see the problems. We play well, lots of possession but struggle to get clear cut chances and are shot shy. Because of the age of the team we are easy to break against. There's no lack of effort from the players and I'm sure Pep can see the issues too. We are still a team in transition from the Mancini era. It's going to take time to fix it.

For sections of our fans to boo at halftime when it's 0-0 is beyond me. The age old leaving 10 minutes from the end is still an issue. You wonder if we actually deserve Pep and our owners sometimes. We have become a pretty obnoxious fan base.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
*In a heartbeat.

Pep wants to win, but he will make no apologies for doing it his way and if that includes the greatest player ever.

FFS, Ibrahimovic, is seven years older and we are constantly being told how that gypo has conquered the Premier League.

Messi pays for himself. I do think it would see Aguero or Silva gone though.
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If the best is available, you go for the best. Totally agree.

Do you not think Sergio would want to stick around and play with his best mate? Or do you think it'd be out of his hands and the decision would be made for him? All hypothetical I know.
 
Monkfish said:
Bluemoon might not be, but you think the atmosphere at home games helps the team?
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I think it's very close. Just as the pre-Brexit poll on here was also pretty accurate.

There's no anticipation of a game prior to kick-off, just thousands of people now coming out of habit rather than desire.

We don't want it enough anymore, we think we do, but not in terms of making a difference to the team.

The best thing we could do this weekend is a giant fuck you to the watching public by backing Pep and the team right from the off.
 
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