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Magicpole said:
What's your source for the 31 bombings claim. As for the levy, well that is easier said that done. Mexico will immediately retaliate with similar tariffs to recoup the already recouped wall costs and so it will go on.

The problem for Trump is he has to find billions to start and finish it, there is no guarantee GOP will vote for it. Even if they do it's hundreds of billions for basically fuck all but an eyesore and an embarrassment to every non, red neck/ racist /thick, gun loving, Jesus worshipping, Muslim hating, immigrant avoiding, flag loving, sexual assault forgiving, disabled mocking, Americans. Never heard a supporter of trump who wasn't at least six of those things.


Is there even an artists impression of the thing?
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He'll also need to pay illegal Mexicans to build it so I expect Mexico will actually profit from it.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
I warned you hahahaha
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I'm actually feeling sorry for him if he doesn't see the truth in what I've written, or that I'm not pro-Trump at all, I can't just see what he's doing.

Magicpole mate, I don't know where you are getting your news from, but bin it. While people are counting crowds Trump is working like a carthorse on everything he said he would. Credit to him for that, he's actually doing it all. And again, I'm not saying that's a good thing.

And as for your wall, it went up earlier when TPP was torn up. It's an economic wall, not a physical wall, but keep looking for that.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
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Brilliant. If he walked the wall groping all who crossed illegally? Problem
Solved overnight.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
I'm actually feeling sorry for him if he doesn't see the truth in what I've written, or that I'm not pro-Trump at all, I can't just see what he's doing.

Magicpole mate, I don't know where you are getting your news from, but bin it. While people are counting crowds Trump is working like a carthorse on everything he said he would. Credit to him for that, he's actually doing it all. And again, I'm not saying that's a good thing.

And as for your wall, it went up earlier when TPP was torn up. It's an economic wall, not a physical wall, but keep looking for that.
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You're right. We've been told by the minister of truth to take Trump seriously but not literally instead of taking him literally and not seriously. This means he can lie as much as he likes. Sorry I mean present alternative facts.
 
west didsblue said:
Do you not think Mexico will reciprocate with equivalent levies?

So he's bombed ISIS 31 times. Do you honestly think the USAF wouldn't have bombed them anyway. They've been doing it for months. Obviously since Trump was inaugurated they'll be bombing the right targets now as Trump knows more than the generals and he'll be telling them what to do.
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I guarantee they are bombing sites that would not have been bombed this time last week. Obama didn't want dead kids on his hands, but Trump will want a show of force and collateral damage will on on the aggressors, not him(from the US point of view).

Give it a month, then watch the partnerships roll in. It'll be the US and Russia partnering against Islamic terrorism. They'll probably want an arab state in the mix so Abu Dhabi will probably come into the mix somewhere. Then we'll see surgical strikes like never before.

Heck he's being secretly advised by the lad who headed Blackwater. These guys are not messing about.
 
You do realise this 'alternative facts' thing is going to backfire hilariously on the left just like 'fake news' did...
 
tshirtman said:
Some of the new ammendments for pre-existing conditions are truly disgusting, kids with hearing problems no longer get hearing aids, unbelievable. Well done Mr Drazkowski
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A couple things. First, that is something that is on table for the state of Minnesota only (which is a strange state politically - remember this is the state that elected Jesse Ventura as Governor and has Al Franken as a Senator.), It is not a law, nor is it likely to pass. That is essentially there to allow insurance companies to offer up a very inexpensive insurance plan that doesn't cover those items. They will still be mandated to have plans that cover those things. I don't know that it is a good idea, but this is at this point just an idea in a state with a GOP House, a 50/50ish Senate, and a democrat Governor (that passed out yesterday while giving a speech). I doubt it goes anywhere.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
You do realise this 'alternative facts' thing is going to backfire hilariously on the left just like 'fake news' did...
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The whole thing really reminds me of rag fans. Anything they shouted at us came full circle in their face.

Counting empty seats or laughing at how Balotelli put a bib on. But while they focused on the shite we did some serious damage, and that's what's going on with this madman.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
I guarantee they are bombing sites that would not have been bombed this time last week. Obama didn't want dead kids on his hands, but Trump will want a show of force and collateral damage will on on the aggressors, not him(from the US point of view).

Give it a month, then watch the partnerships roll in. It'll be the US and Russia partnering against Islamic terrorism. They'll probably want an arab state in the mix so Abu Dhabi will probably come into the mix somewhere. Then we'll see surgical strikes like never before.

Heck he's being secretly advised by the lad who headed Blackwater. These guys are not messing about.
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I assume you can point to a source to back up your guarantee?
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
And as for your wall, it went up earlier when TPP was torn up. It's an economic wall, not a physical wall, but keep looking for that.
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Yeah, he pretty clearly stated the wall was a literal wall, not a metaphorical one, so you're scraping the barrel a bit there, he even went into detail about what kind of wall it would be. Also not sure how getting rid of the TPP is supposed to be an economic barrier to Mexico, given that they already have the North American Free Trade Agreement that gives them free trade with America anyway?
 
BigOscar said:
Yeah, he pretty clearly stated the wall was a literal wall, not a metaphorical one, so you're scraping the barrel a bit there, he even went into detail about what kind of wall it would be. Also not sure how getting rid of the TPP is supposed to be an economic barrier to Mexico, given that they already have the North American Free Trade Agreement that gives them free trade with America anyway?
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NAFTA's getting booted too. TPP was the beginning of these moves. He's really planning on tightening the noose that America is self sufficient(and I don't think he can accomplish it).


As for the literal wall, yes he's said it. But it'll never happen. We may be pointed to some token piece at a hotspot for border jumpers to appease those who want a literal wall, but it will definitely be an economic barrier.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
Give it a week.We'll have all the proof we need. You think they won't be bragging about wiping out ISIS?

Right now, they don't need the distraction in the media, but it's going on.
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I've already said he'll take credit for victory in Mosul in spite of it being ongoing for the last couple of months with the Iraqis taking the lead. That won't stop him claiming personal success for other people's efforts.
 
west didsblue said:
I've already said he'll take credit for victory in Mosul in spite of it being ongoing for the last couple of months with the Iraqis taking the lead. That won't stop him claiming personal success for other people's efforts.
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agreed, but I think they'll have gone more gung ho with the actual targets than the previous regime.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
NAFTA's getting booted too. TPP was the beginning of these moves. He's really planning on tightening the noose that America is self sufficient(and I don't think he can accomplish it).


As for the literal wall, yes he's said it. But it'll never happen. We may be pointed to some token piece at a hotspot for border jumpers to appease those who want a literal wall, but it will definitely be an economic barrier.
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Moving the goal posts a bit, but I suspect that will be a recurring theme of his presidency
 
Thaksinssoldier the wall will happen.

It won't even take long. I predict with a fair degree of certainty that the process will have began by May this year.
 
BigOscar said:
Yeah, he pretty clearly stated the wall was a literal wall, not a metaphorical one, so you're scraping the barrel a bit there, he even went into detail about what kind of wall it would be. Also not sure how getting rid of the TPP is supposed to be an economic barrier to Mexico, given that they already have the North American Free Trade Agreement that gives them free trade with America anyway?
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An awful lot of people believed - and still believe - that wall was going to be made of bricks and mortar and paid for by Mexico. How will his core supporters take the about face ( in their eyes ) to a metaphorical wall ?? Alternative truths are going to expose this guy for the liar he was/is.
 
Art of the deal: overstate what you want. Go for the ludicrous and you can meet in the middle.

Already the debate has shifted from 'the wall will never happen' to 'Mexico will never pay for the wall'.
 
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