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the majority of people want reduced immigration though, same in most countries. hes not going to turn around and say we aren't going to reduce it because you might have to pay cleaners more or it may effect cheap services.. immigration isn't going to just stop, there will still be immigrants doing those jobs. like i said if jobs are created, especially in some of those rust belt states he'll be popular. jobs were already being lost anyway by the thousands before trump.....

i dont think any president has been or will be able to do that. whats wrong with sending in feds ? btw. get control of the the gang crimes and criminal activity. what exactly was obama doing on that ? it actually got worse under him. at least hes trying to do something about it.

i dont agree with all his policies. but i think some of them are actually quite good. you seem to be against any of his polices. eveything he does will end up awful in your opinion. i dont think he will end up beign that tbh.
News update on "send in the Feds" - apparently according to Press secretary Spicer refers to "if the Governor requests it",which is slightly different and is standard US procedure. Chicago police chief also questioning Trump's use of crime statistics which he got off Fox News.
 
'If he creates jobs'.
He may well do in the short term.
But in the longer term as U.S. goods become more expensive and spending is cut and other countries retaliate with protectionist policies then jobs in the U.S. will be lost.
Same with immigration.Texans won't be happy to pay more for window cleaning,pest control, maintenance of their homes. Same throughout the rest of the U.S.where 'folks' have to come to rely on cheap services provided by low wage immigrants.
' Keep crime down'. Yeah right, by sending in the Feds? You won't reduce crime significantly (if at all )unless the underlying causes are addressed as well, and he won't do that.

I have thought this all along - bit of a flaw both sides of the pond amongst Trumpeteers and the Leavers in Brexit. There is a sizeable minority in both groups who are just anti foreigner and don't want anybody but what they perceive as their own nationals living and working in their country. What they don't seem to grasp is the jobs that immigrant do they get because the indigenous people won't work fr that kind of money. Furthermore things won't stay the same as nobody can take work at those rates of pay and live the indigenous lifestyle that they rightly expect. So as you say they face price hikes and an economy taking steps to control the accompanying inflation or clean their own pools and mow their own lawns. Simple fact would be say a BMW X5 made in Mexico sells for say $50k or the equivalent. If it stays there Trump slaps a 35% tariff on the import. However if BMW make it in the US at US labour rates its probably $50k + 35% anyway to retail. How's that benefit anyone in the long run?
 
I'm sorry I'm confused. It's a bad idea because 10% of the population don't have photo ID and those people are poor therefore most likely to vote democrat? That doesn't sound like a solid reason at all.

I'd have to agree with you there in that to assume anybody WILL vote a certain way because of their economic background is mad. Thatcher got elected the 1st time taking lots of Labour ( and allegedly therefore poor ) seats? UKIP did well in Labour seats ( brimming with the poor again ) - there may be trends but ( sadly for me ) Labour are being burned by a recent history of making such assumptions.
 
I'm sorry I'm confused. It's a bad idea because 10% of the population don't have photo ID and those people are poor therefore most likely to vote democrat? That doesn't sound like a solid reason at all.

So you're in favour of marginalising 10% of the population (around 20 to 30 million people) who are largely African American?

Of course it doesn't sound like a solid reason to you. If they were Republican being marginalised you'd think differently.
 
I have thought this all along - bit of a flaw both sides of the pond amongst Trumpeteers and the Leavers in Brexit. There is a sizeable minority in both groups who are just anti foreigner and don't want anybody but what they perceive as their own nationals living and working in their country. What they don't seem to grasp is the jobs that immigrant do they get because the indigenous people won't work fr that kind of money. Furthermore things won't stay the same as nobody can take work at those rates of pay and live the indigenous lifestyle that they rightly expect. So as you say they face price hikes and an economy taking steps to control the accompanying inflation or clean their own pools and mow their own lawns. Simple fact would be say a BMW X5 made in Mexico sells for say $50k or the equivalent. If it stays there Trump slaps a 35% tariff on the import. However if BMW make it in the US at US labour rates its probably $50k + 35% anyway to retail. How's that benefit anyone in the long run?

They wouldn't make an X5 in Mexico.

Ford were originally going to make small compact cars at the Mexican plant. As these have smaller profit margins (in actual dollars rather than percentage) the lower wage rates would have made them appealing. As most of the cars made there are sold back to US consumers. As less and less Americans are buying small cars and are selecting larger and more expensive SUVs and 4X4's building them within the US even with a higher wage cost will actually bring in more money (but might mean a smaller margin)

The decision by ford to come back to the US had nothing to do with Trump and had much more to do with already having the infrastructure (SUV and 4X4 plants) already in place and a market that demands these type of vehicles in much higher numbers than the vehicles the new Mexican plant would've produced.
 
I do wonder what Republicans, Fox News, Breitbart, Reddit etc would be saying if Obama had said he'd "send in the Feds" to a red state's city.
 
I do wonder what Republicans, Fox News, Breitbart, Reddit etc would be saying if Obama had said he'd "send in the Feds" to a red state's city.
In case it's somehow escaped your notice Reddit is the most liberal left leaning website on the internet to the extent that they banned The_Donald from having more than one post on the front page.
 
In case it's somehow escaped your notice Reddit is the most liberal left leaning website on the internet to the extent that they banned The_Donald from having more than one post on the front page.

Should I have said 4chan then? Where do you go for your daily dose of Alt-right propaganda?
 
Terror attacks in US conducted by: Saudis, Pakistanis, Egyptians, Emirates.

Trump ban on: Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians.

Almost as if it's for show and he doesn't want to trouble the enormous financial contacts between the USA and the above group...
 
Just said the wall is costing 6 billion whilst he is making it harder for people to get the medical care,nice person isn't he
If he fulfils his pledge and it goes coast to coast and is 40-50 feet high there won't be much change out of 30 billion.
 
It's gonna be hilarious when the penny drops how ineffective that needless, expensive wall is. Does he think the migrants are gonna see a wall and just shrug their shoulders and go home? Not like they're gonna be smuggled in by boat, or tunnel under or by air or the countless other methods they already use to get into the US.
 
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