Claudio Bravo - 2016/2017 performances (continued)

[kaz7]

Which two against Chelsea?

The unopposed no pressure one and ones?

Here's Hart's effort in a similar circumstance. A keeper widely regarded as excellent in such situations. I rate him excellent at one one ones, yet what you're talking aren't a traditional one on one.

Showing joe is not what i'm asking for

 

[kaz7]

You also know they're not highlighted on YouTube.. He's made saves. As he's faced more shots than goals conceded.

I have no idea where they are as i'm not a techy,you can find joes ok

 

[mosssideblue]

I knew you wouldn't have any

Karen. There is no point in trying to ask for clips of saves because all you will come back with is he is expected to make them, so why bother asking in the first instance? Not one Bravo basher is able to come up with a reasoned argument regarding him being solely to blame for a goal conceded, wonder why that is?

 

[mosssideblue]

mo

most keepers make a fist of saving one on ones he turns his body sidewards. I don't have an agenda I just know what I see with my own eyes. he is garbage.

Well I know your active on the thread again, so revisit my post earlier today and give us your insightful responses to the questions I asked, or were they a little awkward for you?

 

[schfc6]

Showing joe is not what i'm asking for

This isn't for you.

 

[kaz7]

Karen. There is no point in trying to ask for clips of saves because all you will come back with is he is expected to make them, so why bother asking in the first instance? Not one Bravo basher is able to come up with a reasoned argument regarding him being solely to blame for a goal conceded, wonder why that is?

I have turned the question back on you and you have nothing so stop asking me as i wouldn't even know where to get them from

 

[mosssideblue]

I keep being told he has made saves,i'm asking to see them

Come on karen, are you really suggesting Bravo has not made one save since being here?

 

[mosssideblue]

I have turned the question back on you and you have nothing so stop asking me as i wouldn't even know where to get them from

I'm not a techy in that respect but you are the one purporting to know that he has not made any saves, which you know is not true. For days now people have been asking for the bashers to show where he has been solely to blame for conceding, and funnily enough, no one has.

 

[kaz7]

Come on karen, are you really suggesting Bravo has not made one save since being here?

He doesn't make enough as i've have said about his technique before
I see no answer to my question so i'm out

 

[mcfc49]

Which two against Chelsea?

The unopposed no pressure one and ones?

Here's Hart's effort in a similar circumstance. A keeper widely regarded as excellent in such situations. I rate him excellent at one one ones, yet what you're talking aren't a traditional one on one.

Well I know your active on the thread again, so revisit my post earlier today and give us your insightful responses to the questions I asked, or were they a little awkward for you?

Come on karen, are you really suggesting Bravo has not made one save since being here?[/QUOTEBread and butter saves and one good save against Watford.

 

[RayCTID]

Pepe Reina has a similar technique to our current first choice and he won 3 golden gloves during his spell in England. In order for that to happen the defensive unit needs to be fully working. Something you cannot say with our lot.

 

[mosssideblue]

In case you have selected memory @mcfc49 I asked you this at lunchtime

Yes, he is a good keeper who is clearly out of form - obviously you disagree (your prerogative). He has though convinced Chillian National Coach, Barca Head Coach and Pep and his staff he is not the duffer you clearly think he is. How do you think he managed to do that?
I would agree we haven't yet seen those levels of performance, but that is different to say he hasn't got them in him which is what you're saying.
No, you cannot prove another keeper would save them - think about that
If by calling you out saying your making yourself look silly or embarrassing yourself for what you posted, then this forum is not for you. If you are going to call our players clowns or state things that could never be proven as being fact, you should expect a lot more.
Of those 28 goals conceded, how many would you put down solely to Bravo.
The fact we have stats to say we have let in 28 goals only proves we have let in 28 goals, it doesn't prove the keeper is/was at fault for them all (except for the bashers)
Oh, I'm not a rag either

 

[BlueTG]

Ignored the visable shout and jumped backwards into him. It's in the video you posted!

You can't see shouts, and if you can see him as if he was shouting in that video then clearly you have an expertly trained set of eyes and are being misused.

I seem to recall he shouted way too late for Stones to alter his actions, he didn't jump backwards into him either, Bravo jumped into him. If Bravo had the ability to read the situation in that moment, he would have seen it would have been easily dealt with and he didn't need to come marauding 15 yards out of his goal.

 

[schfc6]

You can't see shouts, and if you can see him as if he was shouting in that video then clearly you have an expertly trained set of eyes and are being misused.

I seem to recall he shouted way too late for Stones to alter his actions, he didn't jump backwards into him either, Bravo jumped into him. If Bravo had the ability to read the situation in that moment, he would have seen it would have been easily dealt with and he didn't need to come marauding 15 yards out of his goal.

So you can't see the shout, then he shouted too late? Which is it? No shout or late shout?
On the TV coverage it was visable.

Are you saying no blame falls on Stines there?

I imagine some on here would have differing opinions if Kolarov obstructed Hart in such a manor.

 

[RayCTID]

You can't see shouts, and if you can see him as if he was shouting in that video then clearly you have an expertly trained set of eyes and are being misused.

I seem to recall he shouted way too late for Stones to alter his actions, he didn't jump backwards into him either, Bravo jumped into him. If Bravo had the ability to read the situation in that moment, he would have seen it would have been easily dealt with and he didn't need to come marauding 15 yards out of his goal.

We haven't conceded that type of goal since. Most of our goals have been on the counter attack where the team haven't exactly helped with matters either.

 

[Bewar3them00n]

He hasn't made a save since the first week of Jan.
When Stones makes errors Pep is quick to drop or " rotate" Him out of the side, even Aguero has been on the bench, yet Bravo is seemingly beyond reproach.
Bravo needs to acclimatise, let him do it behind closed doors until he can fill Joes boots, Hart may have had the odd shonky game, but he dug us out of many games with some great saves at the top level in CL games, that's even before I mention Willy's heroics in the final last year.
I'm all for supporting players, but being able to pass a ball is only a small part of the modern keepers game, he is required to actually make some saves and "keep goal" not just "sweep goal" or pick it out if the back of the net.
Bravo has been woeful, I don't need stats to back up what my eyes have seen, and opposition teams will gladly target him, knowing that a shot on goal has a very good chance of going in.
Sorry.... not good enough.

 

[mcfc49]

Pepe Reina has a similar technique to our current first choice and he won 3 golden gloves during his spell in England. In order for that to happen the defensive unit needs to be fully working. Something you cannot say with our lot.

look forward to Claudio winning the golden gloves here like our previous keeper did.

 

[RayCTID]

look forward to Claudio winning the golden gloves here like our previous keeper did.

This time next season he will be on his way in achieving that

 

[mosssideblue]

look forward to Claudio winning the golden gloves here like our previous keeper did.

and what does the GG actually mean to you?

 

[RayCTID]

He hasn't made a save since the first week of Jan.
When Stones makes errors Pep is quick to drop or " rotate" Him out of the side, even Aguero has been on the bench, yet Bravo is seemingly beyond reproach.
Bravo needs to acclimatise, let him do it behind closed doors until he can fill Joes boots, Hart may have had the odd shonky game, but he dug us out of many games with some great saves at the top level in CL games, that's even before I mention Willy's heroics in the final last year.
I'm all for supporting players, but being able to pass a ball is only a small part of the modern keepers game, he is required to actually make some saves and "keep goal" not just "sweep goal" or pick it out if the back of the net.
Bravo has been woeful, I don't need stats to back up what my eyes have seen, and opposition teams will gladly target him, knowing that a shot on goal has a very good chance of going in.
Sorry.... not good enough.

Courtois wasn't looking too clever this time last season. He wasn't "making saves" either.