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Wilf Wild 1937 said:
Err, why did you vote Leave then? That makes absolutely no sense if you have such a low opinion on our ability to go it alone.

I also voted Tory in the last 2 elections but I voted Remain for what it's worth, like May (and Corbyn!), I didn't think it was a big deal either way.

Why on earth would she condemn elected allies?
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because one's already demonstrated racism and the other should be in The Hague for what he's done. She should be able to say "no, that's wrong, and our economy is strong enough for us to be morally and ethically superior and still get a favourable deal".

Instead she's kiss-arsing and wanting the "special relationship" back, I certainly didn't consider this the way forward post-Brexit.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Do you believe everyone who is repulsed by Trump is left wing?
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No but every one who is left wing probably does and a lot of people are tired and disillusioned with the drama and rhetoric from the left which totally dismisses the right as essentially evil and acts as if the world is about to end as trump has got in.
 
worsleyweb said:
Genuine question - what in particular has he done that is making everyone say he is not honest?
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You'd have to think that he's not dishonest, he's just completely deluded. He believes that there were 3 million illegal votes and he therefore won the popular vote as well as the electoral college. He really thinks the inauguration crowd was photoshopped by the media to make it look like there were fewer people there than there were. A couple of things he's said, for starters:
An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud.
My Twitter has become so powerful that I can actually make my enemies tell the truth.”
Rather worryingly he came out with this one, "I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” That is really horrible.

He does occasionally stumble on a truth. "One of they key problems today is that politics is such a disgrace. Good people don’t go into government.”
 
worsleyweb said:
No but every one who is left wing probably does and a lot of people are tired and disillusioned with the drama and rhetoric from the left which totally dismisses the right as essentially evil and acts as if the world is about to end as trump has got in.
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Well, I don't regard people who are right ring as evil and have repeatedly posted in those terms, and the world will keep turning irrespective, but he's still a pathological liar.
 
aguero93:20 said:
No you don't.
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I don't want to get into Pantomime Season but "oh yes we do". We're 5th or 6th in the world. Russia is 12th or 13th depending on whether you use the IMF, World Bank or IMF figures.

Okay if you look at Purchasing Parity Figures Russia is 6th and we are 10th but that is of really limited use as everybody imports stuff and they show China ahead off the US which is clearly bullshit!
 
BJL_City said:
because one's already demonstrated racism and the other should be in The Hague for what he's done. She should be able to say "no, that's wrong, and our economy is strong enough for us to be morally and ethically superior and still get a favourable deal".

Instead she's kiss-arsing and wanting the "special relationship" back, I certainly didn't consider this the way forward post-Brexit.
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What do you consider the way forward? You voted for it after all.
 
worsleyweb said:
Does anyone think he will get a second term?
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Yes. Not even a doubt in my mind.

Look at the Democrats tearing themselves apart. The people running for the party leadership entrenching themselves in race politics saying things like 'we don't need white people leading this party'. No self reflection as to why they lost and the disenfranchisment felt by the working class family with the Democrats, they are imploding like Labour. It's all because 'muh racists and sexists'.

Like 2016 it won't even be close.
 
He is as shady as fuck,release your tax returns and stop groping women,why he thought he could touch our pm god only knows and stop being a shit on twitter
 
domalino said:
Seriously then, why did they vote for him?
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Because they're Republicans and were always going to vote for him or whoever else got the nomination.
Because they were Republicans and, although they didn't like Trump, weren't prepared to vote for anyone else.
Because they were prepared or wanted to believe his promises.
Because he wasn't Hillary Clinton.

The interesting thing, having been over there just a few days before the election, was that the first thing anyone asked was "What about Brexit?" I explained that people voted to leave the EU for all sorts of reasons but the one thing that caused many of them to do so was that they were fed up with the political elite telling them what was good for them but consistently failing to deliver what they wanted. And that's the same reason many voted for Trump.
 
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Wilf Wild 1937 said:
I don't want to get into Pantomime Season but "oh yes we do". We're 5th or 6th in the world. Russia is 12th or 13th depending on whether you use the IMF, World Bank or IMF figures.

Okay if you look at Purchasing Parity Figures Russia is 6th and we are 10th but that is of really limited use as everybody imports stuff and they show China ahead off the US which is clearly bullshit!
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China are well, well ahead of the US and Russia have a bigger economy than the UK. If you want to talk about wealth and living standards that's an entirely different conversation.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Well, I don't regard people who are right ring as evil and have repeatedly posted in those terms, and the world will keep turning irrespective, but he's still a pathological liar.
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Personally I think people who are obsessed with rings tend to have multiple personality disorder and live in stagnant pools under mountains, I could be generalising though.
 
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