UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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I read that today and tomorrow there is a big ECA meeting in Amsterdam. Is City taking an active part in this organisation? One agenda point is apparently how to reshape the Champions League, so it would seem the ECA clubs are also discussing how to position themselves in the power struggle between UEFA and FIFA about international club football (which they have to off course).
https://sport.sky.it/calcio/champio...per-champions-agnelli-eca-ultime-notizie.html
https://www.calciomercato.com/en/ne...ew-super-champions-league-in-cooperatio-46539
Seems like ECA will go with the Super Champions League talked about in 2024 with UEFA and against FIFA world club project.
You know the idea of 16 founding members and 16 invited clubs. 4 relegations per year. Barca and Real Madrid with guaranteed spot (can't be relegated?). 4 groups of 8 clubs, so a minimum of 14 games by club. Takes place in week-ends with national leagues in mid-week. Lot more of TV money than current Champions League.

Here is a map with the so-called "founding members" :
 
https://sport.sky.it/calcio/champio...per-champions-agnelli-eca-ultime-notizie.html
https://www.calciomercato.com/en/ne...ew-super-champions-league-in-cooperatio-46539
Seems like ECA will go with the Super Champions League talked about in 2024 with UEFA and against FIFA world club project.
You know the idea of 16 founding members and 16 invited clubs. 4 relegations per year. Barca and Real Madrid with guaranteed spot (can't be relegated?). 4 groups of 8 clubs, so a minimum of 14 games by club. Takes place in week-ends with national leagues in mid-week. Lot more of TV money than current Champions League.

Here is a map with the so-called "founding members" :

According to @JuanAntAlcala, in 2024 we will have the Superliga Europea with these 16 clubs:

- 900M of right TV
- The matches will be held on Saturday and Sunday.
- Real and Barca will be always present. Do what now???
- The championships will be staggered on Tuesday and Wednesday.
 
If UEFA do change this, then I guess PSG getting deep into French Football sponsorship and deep into UEFA committees will have had a lot to do with it.
From a summary a french user did, the change is due to the recent rulings in favour of Milan AC, Galatasaray, PSG by TAS.
There are several reactions and talks at UEFA and some members are saying it will become less and less possible to use FFP in its current form and even risky to go into trials against those rich clubs (contrary to the small clubs that can't fight against FFP and can be forced to comply).

They are unanimous about Manchester City, since Football Leaks revelations, with a supposed financial system based on image rights that allow them to circumvent FFP and an investigation has been launched. City, on the other hand, is waiting for the results of that investigation and is using the fact that those documents have been illegally obtained through massive hack of private informations as their defence.

Ceferin doesn't want to make any comment but keeps repeating that FFP initial goal has been met, since european football has become a lot healthier with introduction of FFP in 2011 with 600 M benefices now from 1.7 billion accumulated losses before.

UEFA knows they could face a lot of complicated legal procedures in the future, so they think about simplifying some rules without ditching the whole FFP concept.
Among those rules, the instances wouldn't seek to control the origin of the money or how it is spent but will only verify if clubs finances stay in the green side.
For example, they would prioritize controls over clubs that don't pay the salary of players or club employees.

However, whatever route UEFA chose to follow in the future, PSG and Manchester City are still the targets now, especially PSG that enter the period where they need to justify Neymar and Mbappé acquisition in their books.
 
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Bye bye football
 
From a summary a french user did, the change is due to the recent rulings in favour of Milan AC, Galatasaray, PSG by TAS.
There are several reactions and talks at UEFA and some members are saying it will become less and less possible to use FFP in its current form and even risky to go into trials against those rich clubs (contrary to the small clubs that can't fight against FFP and can be forced to comply).

They are unanimous about Manchester City, since Football Leaks revelations, with a supposed financial system based on image rights that allow them to circumvent FFP and an investigation has been launched. City, on the other hand, is waiting for the results of that investigation and is using the fact that those documents have been illegally obtained through massive hack of private informations as their defence.

Ceferin doesn't want to make any comment but keeps repeating that FFP initial goal has been met, since european football has become a lot healthier with introduction of FFP in 2011 with 600 M benefices now from 1.7 billion accumulated losses before.

UEFA knows they could face a lot of complicated legal procedures in the future, so they think about simplifying some rules without ditching the whole FFP concept.
Among those rules, the instances wouldn't seek to control the origin of the money or how it is spent but will only verify if clubs finances stay in the green side.
For example, they would prioritize controls over clubs that don't pay the salary of players or club employees.

However, whatever route UEFA chose to follow in the future, PSG and Manchester City are still the targets now, especially PSG that enter the period where they need to justify Neymar and Mbappé acquisition in their books.

If they no longer plan to seek the origin of the money, then City and PSG can never be targeted again.

All bets are off because they can pump in whatever cash they like.

Both clubs are and always will be in the green.

Personally, it's a crock of shit.

The new European format is a cartel of clubs and with the huge TV money on offer, neither City of Paris will have the type of financial advantage previously held if Barca, United and Real can also offer similar wages.

I suspect the first £1m a week footballer will be seen during the next five years.
 
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