COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[oakiecokie]

She’s 93, not that fucking early is it !!

My Mums 93.

 

[Chippy_boy]

The pathway of the disease elsewhere, its contagion and mortality rate, the population density of China within urban areas and the Chinese government’s inveterate propensity for dissembling are all cogent elements of evidence to support that assertion.

There is nothing xenophobic about concluding that based on the foregoing, the Chinese figures are manifestly wrong.

Aren't you a lawyer? Doesn't seem like it.

None of the above is *evidence* of China frigging the numbers. And moreover, you overlook two extremely salient points:

1. That China locked down much more severely and indeed more quickly than any other nation has done. Other countries have finally seen the light as to how to deal with this crisis, but in the west, every country has acted too late and compared to China, not as severely. We are attempting now to do what they did, albeit with a massively higher infection density to start with. It is entirely conceivable - IMO likely - that from that lower base and with their severe lock down, they did in fact manage to quickly get the new infection rate right down - as we are trying to do. And with that, the death rate has been restrained.

2. Were this not the case and China opened up its manufacturing base and it's ports once more - as it has done - whilst the disease was still rampant, then it would be running rife across the country with a death toll which not only I am sure would be unacceptable even to the Chinese (the word "even" added for the xenophobes), but also it would be at levels impossible to keep secret. Satellite surveillance if nothing else would uncover the vast mortuaries which would be needed. And anyway, the more westernised urban centres with countless western journalists would also be rife with it, and we'd know about it.

What we can logically conclude is that China *does* have this situation under control. Whether the peak number of deaths is higher than they admitted to, doubtless will come out over the fullness of time. But the constant wild speculation on here that they are lying about everything and anything is honestly quite pathethic.

 

[kippax4ever]

I never realised Carragher had Chinese genes

Very good mate..

 

[inchy14]

My Mums 93.

I’m just saying 93 is a good innings mate. Not that I think she should be out and about doing stuff.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Why do the government need to get permission from the relatives of those who have died to include them in the stats? It's not like we are giving away personal information away

Of course it is

 

[BlueHammer85]

gutting figures again from Spain, surely there's only so long 8-900 people a day can die from this Virus !

 

[xgorton]

Latest, healthy 36 year old nurse dies from the coronviris.

 

[DrBlueBob]

My Mums 93.

The way some people on here talk about your age I had assumed that she would be nearer 193.

 

[oakiecokie]

Just wondering if our own Government is totally blameless regarding lies?

As if.

 

[oakiecokie]

The way some people on here talk about your age I had assumed that she would be nearer 193.

Oi behave. ;)