Car Detailing.

I know a bit about it. When I wasn't furloughed I fit paint protection film to posh cars (very posh)

First thing. Black is the worst colour in the world for showing any sort of lacquer lines.

It sounds like you have what some people call (holograms) in the paint. If you have tried micro polish and this had had no effect and it almost seems like the swirls look as if they are set cm's deep (hologram effect) into the paint (I know it's impossible) then you would need to have it machine polished to get rid.

Detailers are a rare breed and you can get that sort of job done for anything between £250 - £1000. Problem is you don't know which price will give you the best job.

Hope that helps.

If you could photo the issue I could tell you better.
 
mindmyp's_n_q's said:
I know a bit about it. When I wasn't furloughed I fit paint protection film to posh cars (very posh)

First thing. Black is the worst colour in the world for showing any sort of lacquer lines.

It sounds like you have what some people call (holograms) in the paint. If you have tried micro polish and this had had no effect and it almost seems like the swirls look as if they are set cm's deep (hologram effect) into the paint (I know it's impossible) then you would need to have it machine polished to get rid.

Detailers are a rare breed and you can get that sort of job done for anything between £250 - £1000. Problem is you don't know which price will give you the best job.

Hope that helps.

If you could photo the issue I could tell you better.
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Yes I will take a few pics of it when the sun is out. The swirl marks she has could possibly be machine polished but the other anomaly is the circular like ghosting effect that when you move your head in direct sunlight the ghosting moves with you so maybe just light refraction, polish residue or something else. I wasn't anticipating £250 sobs for a machine polish though. When the sun is not shining directly on it it's A1 perfect.
 
Like I said detailing is a law unto itself. Generally the people who get it done are so anal about their cars there is almost a one upmanship in saying who spent the most getting a polish.

Or they do it all themselves and say every detailer is shit.

When done properly it can be better than having a car resprayed.

Will have a look out for the pics.
 
mindmyp's_n_q's said:
Like I said detailing is a law unto itself. Generally the people who get it done are so anal about their cars there is almost a one upmanship in saying who spent the most getting a polish.

Or they do it all themselves and say every detailer is shit.

When done properly it can be better than having a car resprayed.

Will have a look out for the pics.
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Thanks for the assistance. Here is a picture as near as I can recreate for now. Her car in direct sunlight is no where near as bad as this but the effect is similar. I just read is could be a buffer hologram cause by incorrect use of a buffer no less. I was under the impression a buffer restored paint work not turned it into the hall of mirrors.

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A file picture recreating buffer holograms ?
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Our middle daughter can wear a man down at twenty paces and reduce and errant soul to a gibbering wreck and has made numerous calls to the Bob Helpline (c) open 24 hours 7 days a week for assistance with her piece of tin. Also five guest appearances dressed fully in PPE maintaining 2 metre protocol to display her derision at her cars paintwork in ..actual person. But I am not a car valeter although I did work for a while bogging shitters back into Radcliffe auction for a tickle and also a stint in retail.

The car is an Astra SRI finished in deathly nightshade met-black and around 15 months old with circa 16k up on the odometer so hardly espousing a hard life and no where near hard as mine has just become. She frets and inhabits the mysteriously myriad-al world of the A-Symmetrical not dissimilar to me which must be down to genetics as I could not sleep if a picture was crooked or something appeared skew -whiff. I am drifting so my dilemma is to do with her swirl marks showing up in our newly arrived bright sunshine and also mysterious shadows that incandescently reflect striations against her paintwork. I have no idea what my olden chums in apartments 3, 4 and 5a must be thinking as we both strut cock like around her nasty dilemma whilst twisting necks in unnatural posture.

It's day three now and I cant take much more so who on here is a detailer or an amateur valet that can offer assistance as I am at my proper tits end with it all .. the car not the daughter : / I am aware it is caused by washing techniques and in most cases unavoidable unless due diligence is observed utilizing the nororious two bucket technique. I have tried hand polishing with Mequires with little effect and fear the only way is to employ the services of a good detailer who is expert in car restoration procedure. I was going to get an orbital polisher from my mate Jeff but was worried about the risk of burn or misguided usage. A DA polisher would be more kind to the pain-t work than an orbital but would it be up to the job? So who on here has had success with this summer time malady and could offer tips to make a worried man sleep at night. They are only visible in direct sunlight and not at all heavy to be fair but they are there all the same. Yes yes I know ..drive it in the shade would be top tip nos 1 but I need to nip this in the bud before we are both carted of to The Farm for our own restoration treatment.

Also general overall tips on valeting a vehicle correctly and what products Moon people recommend to get the job done well inside and out. We pay a lot for cars so a little T and C goes a long long way.. Should I buy a DA polisher then and what is the most recommended on the market under a ton. That is all except to quote a famous saying from one of our greats Winston Blessed Churchill. "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak .. Courage is what it also takes to sit down and listen"....I am all ears !

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I'm no expert but I've polished a few cars in my time, usually older ones, I've never done a modern one.
The paint has to be clayed first to get rid of any tar deposits etc, or the polisher will just ride over them, making it look worse. Use soapy water as a lubricant. Don't drop the clay bar, if you do throw it away and buy another one.
Get a da polisher from halfords, you don't need to spend a fortune. It's pretty hard to burn the paint with one of these, don't press too hard, be careful on any panel edges, keep it lubricated. Don't do it on a hot sunny day. I've used Maguires and it worked for me but there is probably better stuff on the market.
I've had good results using just t cut on the mop, but it is quite harsh and is not water soluble, so use sparingly or it gets everywhere. Works well on old cars with plenty of paint or lacquer depth.
Do one panel at a time, never let it dry out.
Finish with a good quality wax.
I'm very much an amateur, hope that helps
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Thanks for the assistance. Here is a picture as near as I can recreate for now. Her car in direct sunlight is no where near as bad as this but the effect is similar. I just read is could be a buffer hologram cause by incorrect use of a buffer no less. I was under the impression a buffer restored paint work not turned it into the hall of mirrors.

UqCANh8.jpg


A file picture recreating buffer holograms ?
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Looks to me like it's been buffed but left to dry before buffing out. You should be wiping the moist residue off before it dries. Then apply wax and Polish out by hand.
Works for me
 
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