What has the UK become under the far right influence?

blueinsa said:
In 2010/11 it was £538m

Last year it was £6.4 Billion.

I’m fairly confident in the trajectory and travel, costs will continue to take given the numbers involved coming into the UK.
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It’s never really been about the numbers, look at the volumes other countries deal with and their cost per applicant.

It’s the time to process that has been our main issue, that’s caused a huge increase in spending.
 
blueinsa said:
Over 1 million claiming UC that where not born in the UK as of last report.

The strain being placed on our infrastructure and finances by what is now almost uncontrolled numbers coming in has to stop.

UK population is expected to be around 72.5 million by 2032 with immigration the primary growth. Up from the 69.6 million we are at now.

Where do they live? Work? Go to school? Go when sick? Who is going to pay for it all if it’s even possible to build so much infrastructure in such a short space of time?
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If the population is expected to only grow by 2.9 million in the next 7 years with unfettered immigration then whoever forecast that is wrong/lying. How many years has it taken for the last 2.5 million to arrive. 1,2,3 years? In 7 years the population will be nearer 75 million. Madness and unsustainable.
 
bluemanchester said:
If the population is expected to only grow by 2.9 million in the next 7 years with unfettered immigration then whoever forecast that is wrong/lying. How many years has it taken for the last 2.5 million to arrive. 1,2,3 years? In 7 years the population will be nearer 75 million. Madness and unsustainable.
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I’d agree that numbers will be far higher than what that forecast says which is scary enough.

I don’t see any plan or situation in which the UK copes with it.
 
It quite amazes me how many have recently come to the conclusion that immigration is the problem in our country. It’s almost as if they’ve just found out that we use it for our own means.
 
bluemanchester said:
If the population is expected to only grow by 2.9 million in the next 7 years with unfettered immigration then whoever forecast that is wrong/lying. How many years has it taken for the last 2.5 million to arrive. 1,2,3 years? In 7 years the population will be nearer 75 million. Madness and unsustainable.
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It’s taken six to nine years depending which stats you look at to increase by 2.5 million and that includes the spike post Covid…
 
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meltonblue said:
It’s never really been about the numbers, look at the volumes other countries deal with and their cost per applicant.

It’s the time to process that has been our main issue, that’s caused a huge increase in spending.
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It exploded with the passing of the Illegal Migration Act passed by the Tory HS Suella Braverman which outlawed the Govt from processing all and any application to stay from migrants - for some bizarre reason they thought that would deter people
 
meltonblue said:
It’s taken nine years to increase by 2.5 million and that includes the spike post Covid…
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In those 9 years do you think we have put in the infrastructure to easily cope with an extra 2.5 Million?

Schools, hospitals, jobs, housing?
 
meltonblue said:
It’s taken nine years to increase by 2.5 million and that includes the spike post Covid…
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Thanks for the info. Can you break that down to yearly figures to see what a graph of the arrivals would look like. I know it's Saturday night so apologise in advance;-)
 
bluemanchester said:
Thanks for the info. Can you break that down to yearly figures to see what a graph of the arrivals would look like. I know it's Saturday night so apologise in advance;-)
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U.K. Population (1950-2025)

Total population is based on the de facto definition of population, which counts all residents regardless of legal status or citizenship. The values shown are midyear estimates.
www.macrotrends.net www.macrotrends.net

We had a big spike for two years post covid.
 
blueinsa said:
In those 9 years do you think we have put in the infrastructure to easily cope with an extra 2.5 Million?

Schools, hospitals, jobs, housing?
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I don’t think we’ve even put the infrastructure in to deal with what it was without the extra 2.5 million.

Jobs is an interesting one there though given the vast majority of that increase is through issued visas for that, plenty of which I disagree with.
 
meltonblue said:
It’s never really been about the numbers, look at the volumes other countries deal with and their cost per applicant.

It’s the time to process that has been our main issue, that’s caused a huge increase in spending.
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Sorry thats untrue, it's always been about the numbers.
 
hilts said:
Sorry thats untrue, it's always been about the numbers.
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No it hasn’t, unless you’re talking about the numbers in the backlog, which was the point I was making.

Our cost per application has doubled in the last five years and they were awful already.
 
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The Future’s Blue! said:
It quite amazes me how many have recently come to the conclusion that immigration is the problem in our country. It’s almost as if they’ve just found out that we use it for our own means.
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Recently ? You made that up.

The problem in our country? Like the only problem? You made that up.

Only just found out countries use it for their own means? You made that up.

Well done 3 made up lies in one post. Not quite as desperate as the absolute beauty of ........

Yeah but if the wheelchair folk weren't protesters then 50 coppers(yeah 50 bwaaaah those old disabled folk can be feisty) would be arresting shoplifters and the like.

Yeah coz thats what happened on the days of non protest.

Pmsl.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
It quite amazes me how many have recently come to the conclusion that immigration is the problem in our country. It’s almost as if they’ve just found out that we use it for our own means.
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Coincidentally they all come out in force outraged about migrants the day Labour took power a year ago - where was the flags and painting roundabouts back then ?

Almost like they’ve been whipped up on social media scrolling through Reform bot algorithms.
 
meltonblue said:
No it hasn’t, unless you’re talking about the numbers in the backlog, which was the point I was making.

Our cost per application has doubled in the last five years and they were awful already.
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Im talking about the numbers, so yes it's always been about the numbers. The people who are keen on asylum seekers and immigration never give a number. The simple reason is if they did their whole moral argument fails apart quicker than a click of the fingers.
 
hilts said:
Im talking about the numbers, so yes it's always been about the numbers. The people who are keen on asylum seekers and immigration never give a number. The simple reason is if they did their whole moral argument fails apart quicker than a click of the fingers.
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Yes but which numbers? The discussion we were having was about the overall cost of asylum and reasons for that increasing. I was challenging the perspective that it was down to the overall number of arrivals as it’s more down to our cost of applications which have increased significantly due to time to process and also some daft contracts (a recurring theme over the last few years…)

In terms of giving a number for asylum or immigration, personally I couldn’t give a number as I genuinely don’t know. On asylum seekers, I don’t personally have an issue with the number of applications we currently deal
with, I’d like to see them processed far quicker and safer though and those that go through the process and are deemed illegal deported quicker.

On the latter, as I said earlier in the thread, I have issues with the number of visas we have allowed for people working in sectors that I don’t think are needed. Whether we need more in other areas, I have no idea so giving an overarching number, I don’t know how anyone can give that and I’m not sure it’s a good idea to.

I don’t think it’s really a moral argument as you’re combining two different things, at least to me, and only one of them I see as having a moral perspective to it.
 
We have a far right influence?

Just wait until Farage is PM, then we will have a genuinely scary far right in power.

Brexit was about immigration, the politicians did nothing about immigration and now we are on the verge.
 
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