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Not heard of this band before but after listening to the first few tracks, I think this could be another album thread find !
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The Album Review Club - Week #191 (page 1286) - Harlequin Dream - Boy & Bear
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Unhurried is the first adjective that has sprung to mind.
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Not the worst thing I've ever heard.
mrbelfry
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how the turns turns tableWell well..
Saddleworth2
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First listen impressions. Could have been made in any decade since the 60s - I like that. Songs ok, vocals ok, instrumentations good. Getting vibes of lots of bands I like. So far ok.
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I said this was unhurried, expanding on this it does that thing where there's a nice rhythmic propulsion but it's entirely calm - in that sense it's almost the antithesis of last weeks pick tbh. Creating that forward momentum on mid-tempo tracks so they roll rather than plod is a skill and this lot can do it.
If this was krautrock we'd be talking about motorik, but it's more a Yo La Tengo vibe
it's not car music, it's not plane music, it's (more often) train music
If this was krautrock we'd be talking about motorik, but it's more a Yo La Tengo vibe
it's not car music, it's not plane music, it's (more often) train music
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Black&White&BlueMoon Town
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The last time I was on a train was in September on the way to Manchester. I was mostly listening to and writing up my notes for Nick Drake that week, but I think I circled back to this at the same time. I nearly nominated this selection before Local Natives in August, so what do I know?I said this was unhurried, expanding on this it does that thing where there's a nice rhythmic propulsion but it's entirely calm - in that sense it's almost the antithesis of last weeks pick tbh. Creating that forward momentum on mid-tempo tracks so they roll rather than plod is a skill and this lot can do it.
If this was krautrock we'd be talking about motorik, but it's more a Yo La Tengo vibe
it's not car music, it's not plane music, it's (more often) train music
I agree that the train rhythm is unique over a plane and car experience, but I have found that this selection has gone over well there too.
Saddleworth2
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I listened on the treadmill yesterday so maybe it’s running machine music :-)it's not car music, it's not plane music, it's (more often) train music
mrbelfry
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On Southern Sun from the album Harlequin Dream by Boy & Bear Dave Hosking sings "As a child I was wonder eyed at the thought that I might know a life in the ecstasy of rock 'n' roll woah-oh I'm not taking it slow" - this is a lie. He may have once been a child dreaming of being a rock star but if this album is the sound of him not taking it slow then he must have a resting heart rate of 10. He should see a doctor.
Lyrically there are hints of passion. sometimes people sweat, rip off their skin, walk through flames and leave cocaine footprints (i'm unsure what he means by this to be honest and cocaine is no longer just available to actual rock stars so you can have both a white picket fence and a crippling cocaine habit. the real cool people die from misusing prescription drugs these days and if I worked in a distasteful Harold Shipman joke here it would be significantly edgier than what is on this album). Recap because this is a long and convoluted paragraph - lyrically there are hints of passion but musically it is tremendously polite.
It's this politeness that makes it a quite pleasant listen but doesn't give enough for me to connect with. Perhaps this is a good thing as when the musicians attempt to stand out I'm distracted trying to work out what it reminds me of. Exhibit A is the guitar line from Southern Sun which is not the same as but is certainly reminiscent of something from Marquee Moon if you were playing that for your mum. Except my mum grew up in much wilder times than now and she drinks and plays poker. She's probably ashamed of how lame I am. Now at this point you will be unsure if I actually listened to any of the rest of the album or possibly you stopped reading when I made the Shipman joke. All fair criticism to be honest.
I did though listen to the rest of it and it was fine. The musicians do their absolute best to not be noticed whilst playing some nice stuff. Highlights for me were Three Headed Woman which had a nice lilt. A Moments Grace was quite nice with a sleepy build spearheaded by the quietest trumpet you'll ever hear. Real Estate might have almost been on Illinoise by Sufjan Stevens and you should definitely listen to that to hear what was lacking for me on this album. Stranger has some nice synth at the start and Arrow Flight has a nice gentle groove. It was weird to me that Back Down the Black didn't close the album as the song with the most dynamism but I think at this point they were committed to being in the kitchen at the party. This I think is a shame and it makes it very easy for me to dismiss.
Perhaps Hosking's has had a dark period but as he has the beast on the leash these days he's doing his best to not get angry and he's keeping his passion subdued. Unfortunately for them I want to watch the Incredible Hulk and not the Adventures of Bruce Banner. Scoring is going to make no sense but it's a 6.5 because it's perfectly fine and enjoyable but also everything it does well I can hear done more to my taste elsewhere. For some that would make it a 5 but that feels pretty mean because these guys have achieved infinitely more than I ever will simply be being fine.
I regret not liking @Black&White&BlueMoon Town nominations more than I do. If you asked me what kind of music I like I would probably describe 90% of what he picks but I guess I'm not as mature as I think I am. I'm like the toddler that sometimes wants a nap and sometimes wants to hit windows with plastic hammers. Something that is kind of balanced and grown up like this nomination makes me want to make racist comments for the sugar rush. Later tonight I will crash and regret my Shipman joke but will learn nothing. Bitterness is a hell of a drug
Lyrically there are hints of passion. sometimes people sweat, rip off their skin, walk through flames and leave cocaine footprints (i'm unsure what he means by this to be honest and cocaine is no longer just available to actual rock stars so you can have both a white picket fence and a crippling cocaine habit. the real cool people die from misusing prescription drugs these days and if I worked in a distasteful Harold Shipman joke here it would be significantly edgier than what is on this album). Recap because this is a long and convoluted paragraph - lyrically there are hints of passion but musically it is tremendously polite.
It's this politeness that makes it a quite pleasant listen but doesn't give enough for me to connect with. Perhaps this is a good thing as when the musicians attempt to stand out I'm distracted trying to work out what it reminds me of. Exhibit A is the guitar line from Southern Sun which is not the same as but is certainly reminiscent of something from Marquee Moon if you were playing that for your mum. Except my mum grew up in much wilder times than now and she drinks and plays poker. She's probably ashamed of how lame I am. Now at this point you will be unsure if I actually listened to any of the rest of the album or possibly you stopped reading when I made the Shipman joke. All fair criticism to be honest.
I did though listen to the rest of it and it was fine. The musicians do their absolute best to not be noticed whilst playing some nice stuff. Highlights for me were Three Headed Woman which had a nice lilt. A Moments Grace was quite nice with a sleepy build spearheaded by the quietest trumpet you'll ever hear. Real Estate might have almost been on Illinoise by Sufjan Stevens and you should definitely listen to that to hear what was lacking for me on this album. Stranger has some nice synth at the start and Arrow Flight has a nice gentle groove. It was weird to me that Back Down the Black didn't close the album as the song with the most dynamism but I think at this point they were committed to being in the kitchen at the party. This I think is a shame and it makes it very easy for me to dismiss.
Perhaps Hosking's has had a dark period but as he has the beast on the leash these days he's doing his best to not get angry and he's keeping his passion subdued. Unfortunately for them I want to watch the Incredible Hulk and not the Adventures of Bruce Banner. Scoring is going to make no sense but it's a 6.5 because it's perfectly fine and enjoyable but also everything it does well I can hear done more to my taste elsewhere. For some that would make it a 5 but that feels pretty mean because these guys have achieved infinitely more than I ever will simply be being fine.
I regret not liking @Black&White&BlueMoon Town nominations more than I do. If you asked me what kind of music I like I would probably describe 90% of what he picks but I guess I'm not as mature as I think I am. I'm like the toddler that sometimes wants a nap and sometimes wants to hit windows with plastic hammers. Something that is kind of balanced and grown up like this nomination makes me want to make racist comments for the sugar rush. Later tonight I will crash and regret my Shipman joke but will learn nothing. Bitterness is a hell of a drug
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(Shipman joke and stuff... ;-)
I regret not liking @Black&White&BlueMoon Town nominations more than I do. If you asked me what kind of music I like I would probably describe 90% of what he picks but I guess I'm not as mature as I think I am. I'm like the toddler that sometimes wants a nap and sometimes wants to hit windows with plastic hammers. Something that is kind of balanced and grown up like this nomination makes me want to make racist comments for the sugar rush. Later tonight I will crash and regret my Shipman joke but will learn nothing. Bitterness is a hell of a drug
You are definitely one I know that my musical taste will maybe never satisfy, and you were not the one I was thinking was going to really like this either, for full disclosure. To make our interests overlap, I could just say F'it and throw up an R band and we can both take on Foggy and Co. together. Maybe the final round I'll be saving that, but I'm more about the road less traveled in my preferred picks here.
In the meantime, I've just learned to never bluff your mum in a poker game or try to outdrink while doing so. Growing up having someone being able to read you might have been tough. Interesting closer take on "Back Down The Black" too. I would have ended the album on "Stranger", but that's just me being a closing track stickler, but I like your choice too. Thank you for listening, and you made me smile and chuckle at the end of a long workweek.
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mrbelfry
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My mum easily out drinks me because I don't drink. She drinks only on celebratory occasions but shes not shy to celebrate. The poker thing came late in her life so not when when I was younger and to be honest it's a sore point because my brother was invited to the poker games but I never have been. you can be sure I'll be mentioning this at her funeral whenever that should be :)You are definitely one I know that my musical taste will maybe never satisfy, and you were not the one I was thinking was going to really like this either, for full disclosure. To make our interests overlap, I could just say F'it and throw up an R band and we can both take on Foggy and Co. together. Maybe the final round I'll be saving that, but I'm more about the road less traveled in my preferred picks here.
In the meantime, I've just learned to never bluff your mum in a poker game or try to outdrink while doing so. Growing up having someone being able to read you might have been tough. Interesting closer take on "Back Down The Black" too. I would have ended the album on "Stranger", but that's just me being a closing track stickler, but I like your choice too. Thank you for listening, and you made me smile and chuckle at the end of a long workweek.
I feel like our music taste should align and I'm often confused that I don't like your nominations more. I think I'm very contrarian so perhaps if I happened to come across the songs without anyone suggesting them i would take to them - at heart im an awkward pig. As I said this is a fine album and I'm just not a nice enough person to fully appreciate it. I'll be interested to read how you respond to my next suggestion and see if it has the opposite affect on you ie you're too nice to fully appreciate it. Interestingly one of the things I was going to mention in my next nomination is how I think the back half of the album is all closing songs and that's what makes it great. The album is so good that from the fourth song onwards it is just tracks that most bands would kill for to close their albums
If you do throw up the R maybe do King of Limbs for maximum damage ;)
Black&White&BlueMoon Town
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I'm aware of that, so not exactly news there. I was thinking how I'd get outplayed/outdrank. My mum (I just translated there) could probably outdrink me too, but she had more Irish in her than I do. ;-)My mum easily out drinks me because I don't drink.
Well, just enjoy things while you have them, because as I've learned all too well, once they're gone, there's no coming back...She drinks only on celebratory occasions but shes not shy to celebrate. The poker thing came late in her life so not when when I was younger and to be honest it's a sore point because my brother was invited to the poker games but I never have been. you can be sure I'll be mentioning this at her funeral whenever that should be :)
Oh, you must know I was young
the fear I had not yet outrun,
though I was never meant to hurt you
but I do, oh
I do, ohhh
At this point, I'm just getting an enjoyment out of it all, because I know if you had made the meeting in Manchester, we'd have hit it off brilliantly. At least that's what I tell myself.I feel like our music taste should align and I'm often confused that I don't like your nominations more. I think I'm very contrarian so perhaps if I happened to come across the songs without anyone suggesting them i would take to them - at heart im an awkward pig. As I said this is a fine album and I'm just not a nice enough person to fully appreciate it.
Consider me intrigued...I'll be interested to read how you respond to my next suggestion and see if it has the opposite affect on you ie you're too nice to fully appreciate it. Interestingly one of the things I was going to mention in my next nomination is how I think the back half of the album is all closing songs and that's what makes it great. The album is so good that from the fourth song onwards it is just tracks that most bands would kill for to close their albums
It would be like a jigsaw falling into place, that one, but given little of what I put forth adds up, perhaps 2+2 will equal 5 when the time comes.If you do throw up the R maybe do King of Limbs for maximum damage ;)
mrbelfry
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True love waits.At this point, I'm just getting an enjoyment out of it all, because I know if you had made the meeting in Manchester, we'd have hit it off brilliantly. At least that's what I tell myself.
Actually we did meet I'm just very forgettable in real life.
My mum's dad was Polish and her mum was Irish - the alcohol went full circle which is probably why I'm sober . Perhaps too sober as someone told me today that I would probably be happier if I drank more
Consider this part one of a two part review, with live reaction commentary.
The totally unnecessary countryfication of a perfectly good indie/alt album didn't bother me that much at first listen, but with repeated goes is becoming a bit of an effort. You are Australian ffs, just why!
Don't get me wrong, there is plenty there for me to like. But it is a bit like using your thumbs to peel what you think is a tangerine, only to realise someone has handed you a mangosteen and you are going to have to really push at it for that juicy middle segment which is similar but yet different to what you expected in the first place.
Elements of Wintersleep, Manchester Orchestra and other stuff I like. But there is one very specific, possibly a bit niche album it reminds me of. That I kinda like more because I really want to than I do by default, but a few here would probably like more than I do. For a bit of fun, if anyone happens to coincidentally guess it in one try they can have my next turn! (Willing to offer a round of clues if anyone fancies a shot).
The totally unnecessary countryfication of a perfectly good indie/alt album didn't bother me that much at first listen, but with repeated goes is becoming a bit of an effort. You are Australian ffs, just why!
Don't get me wrong, there is plenty there for me to like. But it is a bit like using your thumbs to peel what you think is a tangerine, only to realise someone has handed you a mangosteen and you are going to have to really push at it for that juicy middle segment which is similar but yet different to what you expected in the first place.
Elements of Wintersleep, Manchester Orchestra and other stuff I like. But there is one very specific, possibly a bit niche album it reminds me of. That I kinda like more because I really want to than I do by default, but a few here would probably like more than I do. For a bit of fun, if anyone happens to coincidentally guess it in one try they can have my next turn! (Willing to offer a round of clues if anyone fancies a shot).
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Consider this part one of a two part review, with live reaction commentary.
The totally unnecessary countryfication of a perfectly good indie/alt album didn't bother me that much at first listen, but with repeated goes is becoming a bit of an effort. You are Australian ffs, just why!
Don't get me wrong, there is plenty there for me to like. But it is a bit like using your thumbs to peel what you think is a tangerine, only to realise someone has handed you a mangosteen and you are going to have to really push at it for that juicy middle segment which is similar but yet different to what you expected in the first place.
Elements of Wintersleep, Manchester Orchestra and other stuff I like. But there is one very specific, possibly a bit niche album it reminds me of. That I kinda like more because I really want to than I do by default, butna few here would probably like more than I do. For a bit of fun, if anyone happens to coincidentally guess it in one try they can have my next turn!
I think the fact that I want to try so your next pick ends up being Conway Twitty reflects badly on me as a human being.
I think the fact that I want to try so your next pick ends up being Conway Twitty reflects badly on me as a human being.
If I was to bet on anyone guessing it, which I wouldn't, you would probably stand a better chance than most.
I would live by my offer come what may!
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Australians are big on acoustic/folk (or countryfication as you call it). Must be something to do with the vast open spaces, similar to the interior of the US.Consider this part one of a two part review, with live reaction commentary.
The totally unnecessary countryfication of a perfectly good indie/alt album didn't bother me that much at first listen, but with repeated goes is becoming a bit of an effort. You are Australian ffs, just why!
Don't get me wrong, there is plenty there for me to like. But it is a bit like using your thumbs to peel what you think is a tangerine, only to realise someone has handed you a mangosteen and you are going to have to really push at it for that juicy middle segment which is similar but yet different to what you expected in the first place.
Elements of Wintersleep, Manchester Orchestra and other stuff I like. But there is one very specific, possibly a bit niche album it reminds me of. That I kinda like more because I really want to than I do by default, but a few here would probably like more than I do. For a bit of fun, if anyone happens to coincidentally guess it in one try they can have my next turn! (Willing to offer a round of clues if anyone fancies a shot).
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If I was to bet on anyone guessing it, which I wouldn't, you would probably stand a better chance than most.
I would live by my offer come what may!
I think Conway Twitty would count as a pretty bad self-own or whatever it is the young 'uns call it. Tbh I wouldn't know where to start guessing, this lot sound like a lot of different people to me.
I think Conway Twitty would count as a pretty bad self-own or whatever it is the young 'uns call it. Tbh I wouldn't know where to start guessing, this lot sound like a lot of different people to me.
I might just nominate it in its own right one day then. Wouldn't make for the worst discussion and might fare better than my own choices.