Referees' Performances | 2025/26

simon23 said:
no

now i can accept that they are substandard..thats fair enough. Incompetent even...

but those that complain that the refs are deliberately cheating us on a regular basis are losing a grip on reality
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Compare similar incidents. There were plenty to choose from yesterday. Why were we not getting the frees for similar incidents. I think two of ours got booked yesterday for pointing out that the whistling wanker had given a foul for Leeds but had ignored a similar one a few moments ago. Refs are trained, programmed to react. When they choose not to react for a clear foul it's either incomptence or the other. I'm inclined to think that they know the rules back to front and inside out so incompetence doesn't seem to be an option. I think it's applying the laws to a different threshold, and if that is the case it's cheating. Not applying the LotG impartially is cheating. I swa examples of it yesterday.
 
Manc Born & Bred said:
Gvardiol was played onside by three defenders from the pictures I have seen it wasn’t even close. Can only imagine they were looking at Silvia’s actions on their keeper.
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Gvardiol was never offside, and for VAR to say they were looking for an offside it must have been some one else, but from the point when the corner was taken there were half the Leeds team coming and going from the goal line. I texted my ERO to celebrate the goal and then said VAR was in. I then texted that they were on a two minute forensic scrutiny. They are looking for any reason to chalk off the goal, I said. They could have deliberated on the offside, which they initially tabled, inside twenty seconds with one fuckin' look! I can't recall but have we had any oppo goal this season getting such scrutiny?
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
Gvardiol was never offside, and for VAR to say they were looking for an offside it must have been some one else, but from the point when the corner was taken there were half the Leeds team coming and going from the goal line. I texted my ERO to celebrate the goal and then said VAR was in. I then texted that they were on a two minute forensic scrutiny. They are looking for any reason to chalk off the goal, I said. They could have deliberated on the offside, which they initially tabled, inside twenty seconds with one fuckin' look! I can't recall but have we had any oppo goal this season getting such scrutiny?
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Probably not but Newcastle's goal against us last week which was clearly offside did.
 
danielwood5 said:
Fair play, this is actually a well thought out and reasoned point of view.
If you accept that the GPC was able to intimidate and get in refs heads which made them less likely to give decisions against his team, do you feel it more or less likely that constant negative coverage of City in the media, overanalysing of every positive decision for City, overanalysing of any negative decision against media friendly teams such as United, Liverpool, Arsenal combined with a large number of United, Liverpool and Arsenal pundits could also have an impact on refereeing decisions in games.
Do you feel that the media chasing the views and clicks of the worldwide supporters of the club's that were successful in the 80s/90s/early 2000s, which gives them a disproportionate amount of positive airtime compared to the other 17 clubs in the league, could have an affect on on-pitch refereeing decisions?
As an example, do you think the media's obsession today with goalkeepers taking a time out would have happened if Donnarumma hadn't stopped the game yesterday, do you think it would be a similar big talking point, using the words cheating/spoiling the game/etc, if the Arsenal keeper does the same thing today?
Do you feel that decisions such as the handball non-sending off in the FA Cup Final, which appeared to be made to ensure that the game was more interesting to neutrals/pundits, would be more or less likely to happen if it were Liverpool playing Crystal Palace? Or would the same decision have been made if it were say Everton or Bournemouth playing Palace?
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I think there is a more negative coverage in the media by newspapers/online - its always been there.

The bias of pundits is only natural...id wager that if most people on here had the chance to be a regular pundit on say Sky they would certainly be bias towards us. therefore its only natural that the likes of Carragher, Neville etc will be bias...its human nature...we would do the same

Do I think the bias of the pundits has an impact on refereeing decisions - no - nor do I think companies chasing clicks affects day to day/match to match refereeing decisions - arent we one of the most covered teams (ie most matches live) in most recent years...? thought id heard that somewhere - could be wrong.

Ive heard various keepers criticised for time wasting etc.....its more about creating narratives for click bait and the people that fall for that sort of shit (clicks = money) than trying to affect refs decisions on a pitch - if you are looking at someone to blame about that Donarumma part look at the manager of Leeds - he was the one who gave the media their headline/target - thats just gamesmanship that most if not all managers get involved in...even Pep does it but he does it a lot less than most. - I said yesterday its the main reason I value Pep so much - his integrity in that he rarely gets involved in that type of behvaiour. Wasnt it our fans complaing about Pickfords and some other goalkeepers behaviour last year with time wasting that led to increased focus on this? - rightfully so again...Donarumma wasnt carded for that btw - he was carded for discent - Ive seen several other players carded for it again since - Pauqetta sent off for continuing to do it earlier on....

ALL teams have these complaints/similar scenarios that they point to....

Im watching the Chelsea/Arse match atm - if you want the ultimate culprit to poor refereeing decision blame the players. The diving/cheating by both set of players is appalling....however interestingly i think the sending off decision is the correct one for Caceido

If you look at the doku shoulder barge and the corresponding clash people are pointing to that resulted in a free kick the other way but not to us that seems to have got people riled up....I thought Doku played for it....I thought NEITHER were fouls - so yes the inconsistency is there but its human nature/shit refs that are the issue - its not them trying to cheat us....Like i said someone claimed that the reason that they took so long to award our second goal was because they were deliberately trying to find a reason not to give it.....thats just ludicrous and quite frankly pathetic

If we are to accept that there is deliberate attempt to try and cheat us then we have to accept that there is some validity in the claims of other teams that the QPR game was rigged......which again is quite frankly absurd.....there

Humans are inconsistent. we view the same scenario and can easily come up with two slightly different interpretations....we even do it with conversations - it happens and if you speak to psychologists etc they will tell that it is all about individual interpretations with things that happen..... everyone has a slightly different version of what they saw and what they hear....

For me VAR should be binned - it spoils the game cause it slows it down...stick with on field decisions for everything...the only tech that works is goal-line technology as it is not subjective - everything else important is and always will be.
 
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