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Dada-Mascoll could be that guy from the academy if he could stay fit for a fortnight
Have we ever thrown away a 4 goal lead?
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Dada-Mascoll could be that guy from the academy if he could stay fit for a fortnight
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He was denied the modern day record which Ian Rush has since surpassed.
The all time FA Cup scoring record is held by Harry Cursham of Notts County but his career was when Queen Victoria was still around.
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As you say, that’s the only 5-5 game in PL history.
It’s one of five PL games where 10 goals were scored in total. The record is 11 - Portsmouth 7 Reading 4 in September 2007. Bizarrely, Reading lost 6-4 at Spurs just three months later.
Certainly not under Pep, Pellers or Mancini.
in fact, when scoring 4+ under those managers, we've won nearly 180 matches and drawn 1 ; a 4-4 at Chelsea which was never more than a goal apart.
There are a dozen games under those managers in which we scored 4+ and conceded 3 or 4, but all of them have been back and forth (or 6-3, 5-3), none of them appear to be 4+ goal leads that have nearly capitulated.
In our modern era, last night was a freak (it better had be)
in fact, when scoring 4+ under those managers, we've won nearly 180 matches and drawn 1 ; a 4-4 at Chelsea which was never more than a goal apart.
There are a dozen games under those managers in which we scored 4+ and conceded 3 or 4, but all of them have been back and forth (or 6-3, 5-3), none of them appear to be 4+ goal leads that have nearly capitulated.
In our modern era, last night was a freak (it better had be)
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In the entire Premier League a 4 goal lead has only ever been squandered once. Arsenal v Newcastle in 2011. Arsenal were 4-0 up after like 25 mins but the game ended 4-4
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I know, hence the reason for my question.
Old boy I used to take to City was at that game. I might be wrong, but it was an afternoon game in the midweek and fogbound to boot. He said he was in the scoreboard end and reliant on word of mouth mexican wave murmur to work out what was going on down at the Platt Lane end. I know it ended 4-5, but not certain we ever had a 4 goal lead.
according to this site, we were 3-0 up, drew 3 all at FT and Newcastle won it 5-4 in added time.
Manchester City 4 - 5 Newcastle United | 09/01/1957 | Match Detail | toon1892 ~ a site for Newcastle United fans everywhere...
Details of the game played on 09/01/1957. v. Manchester City at Maine Road, including line-ups, scorers, managers and more...
the blue panther
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I remember us being 3-0 up at half time at Maine Road against Notts Forest in about 1969/70 and we drew 3-3. That was probably my first attack of Cityitis. There have been many since.
Thank fuck we held on for the points last night, but it's comical to think that this version of City isn't really safe even at 5-1 in front.
We'll all need a half time valium to cope if it carries on like this!
Thank fuck we held on for the points last night, but it's comical to think that this version of City isn't really safe even at 5-1 in front.
We'll all need a half time valium to cope if it carries on like this!
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It's not happened in my City supporting lifetime but the two closest I can remember are last night of course, and as @Corky stated, Leicester at home on Boxing Day 2021. We were 4-0 up at half-time in that one and Leicester pulled it back to 4-3 at one stage before we ran out 6-3 winners.
Then there was the 3-3 v Feyenoord last season which I think was CL record in that it was the latest in the match a team had squandered a 3 goal league since the CL started.
What I find surprising is that all 3 of the above happened under Pep. Bournemouth aside in 1989, I can't remember us squandering any other 3 goal leads or nearly squandering a 4 goal lead. It never happened when we were truly dogshit in the mid-late 90s but then I suppose - apart from the very odd occasion - we were never good enough to be 3 or 4 goals up in games back then anyway!
Then there was the 3-3 v Feyenoord last season which I think was CL record in that it was the latest in the match a team had squandered a 3 goal league since the CL started.
What I find surprising is that all 3 of the above happened under Pep. Bournemouth aside in 1989, I can't remember us squandering any other 3 goal leads or nearly squandering a 4 goal lead. It never happened when we were truly dogshit in the mid-late 90s but then I suppose - apart from the very odd occasion - we were never good enough to be 3 or 4 goals up in games back then anyway!
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I remember Arsenal drawing at Newcastle after being 4-0 up.
*edit* Didn't PSG chuck away a 4 goal lead at Madrid in the CL?
I see someone already mentioned the Arsenal game!
There aren't actually that many games where it's even possible. Yes I've just trawled through every result in the clubs history on here: https://bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/History/Matches/Seasons.aspx
Apologies if I've missed any but I think I picked them all up. Hope I've got all the home and aways right too.
Every game where we've conceded at least 4 and scored at least 4:
1894/95 - Newcastle United 5-4 City - Didn't happen.
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1906/07 - Liverpool 5-4 City - Didn't happen, albeit unofficial Liverpool source has us 4-2 down at half time.
1925/26 - City 4-4 Everton - Didn't happen, 0-3, 1-3, 1-4, 4-4.
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1925/26 - Bury 6-5 City - Didn't happen, found in the boxing day Liverpool Echo of all place.
1925/26 - City 11-4 Crystal Palace - FA Cup - didn't happen.
1927/28 - City 7-4 Swansea City
1927/28 - Nottingham Forest 4-5 City - Didn't happen. It was 5-1 City at one point though.
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1928/29 - City 6-4 Bury
1936/37 - Chelsea 4-4 City - Didn't happen, 2-1, 2-4, 4-4.
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1950/51 - Grimsby Town 4-4 City - Didn't happen, 0-1, 2-1, 2-4, 4-4.
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1952/53 - Middlesbrough 5-4 City - Didn't happen, we were 3-0 down and came back to 3-3 at one point.
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1953/54 - Sunderland 4-5 City - Didn't happen. 1-0, 3-1, 3-3, 3-4, 4-4, 4-5.
1956/57 - City 5-4 Chelsea - Didn't happen according to unofficial Chelsea source. 0-2, 2-2, 2-3, 3-3, 3-4, 5-4.
1956/57 - City 4-5 Newcastle United - AET - FA Cup - Didn't happen. 3-0, 3-3, 4-3, 4-4, 4-5.
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1957/58 - Sheff Wed 4-5 City
1957/58 - Leicester City 8-4 City
1959/60 - City 4-6 Wolves - Didn't happen according to footballdatabase.eu, 2-0, 2-3, 3-3, 3-4, 4-4, 4-6. 1960/61 - Arsenal 5-4 City - Didn't happen according to footballdatabase.eu, 3-0, 3-3, 5-3. 1985/86 - City 4-5 Chelsea - Neutral Ground - Full Members Cup - Didn't happen, 0-1, 5-1, 5-4.
2023/24 - Chelsea 4-4 City - Didn't happen, 0-1, 2-1, 3-2, 3-3, 3-4, 4-4.
2025/26 - Fulham 4-5 City
8 wins, 4 draws and 9 losses there. Included the wins because we could have given the lead away in the game.
Haven't actually checked any of them yet. Have to be an FOC to remember seeing one beyond the most recent 3. I'll update as I go.
@Gary James might also be aware of friendlies or maybe wartime games that aren't officially counted.
Apologies if I've missed any but I think I picked them all up. Hope I've got all the home and aways right too.
Every game where we've conceded at least 4 and scored at least 4:
1894/95 - Newcastle United 5-4 City - Didn't happen.
Have we ever thrown away a 4 goal lead?
Is there NO-ONE in our world class Academy that can run around and put in a tackle in the 30 yards between our box and the halfway line?! Feel like we have shipped a fair few of those kind of young talents in the last few seasons. No idea if any of them would be one, but we are in desperate need...
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The 1920s: Manchester City 4 Everton 4
100 years ago today (19 September) Manchester City went a goal behind after three minutes to Everton (scored by Goodison legend William Ralph 'Dixie' Dean) and were losing 3-0 within 30 minutes. But this day would see a remarkable City fightback - down to ten men for most of the match too! The...
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It's in the boxing day Liverpool Echo of 1925, https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000271/19251226/070/0004
https://www.mancity.com/news/mens/1...y-v-crystal-palace-a-record-breaking-fac-tie/
1927/28 - Nottingham Forest 4-5 City - Didn't happen. It was 5-1 City at one point though.
The 1920s: Nottm Forest 4 Manchester City 5
A remarkable game on this day (24 September) in 1927 ended with City beating Forest 5-4 at the City Ground, Nottingham. Manchester's Blues had been winning 5-1 shortly into the second half before Forest started a fightback. 24 September 1927 MCFC 5 Nottingham Forest 4 You can read more on this...
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1936/37 - Chelsea 4-4 City - Didn't happen, 2-1, 2-4, 4-4.
Chelsea 4 Manchester City 4
On this day (3 February) in 1937 the champions to be Manchester City drew 4-4 at Chelsea. Here are the comments from City about this game and how it was received in London too. Enjoy:
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Have we ever thrown away a 4 goal lead?
There aren't actually that many games where it's even possible. Yes I've just trawled through every result in the clubs history on here: https://bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/History/Matches/Seasons.aspx Apologies if I've missed any but I think I picked them all up. Hope I've got all the home and aways...
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Have we ever thrown away a 4 goal lead?
There aren't actually that many games where it's even possible. Yes I've just trawled through every result in the clubs history on here: https://bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/History/Matches/Seasons.aspx Apologies if I've missed any but I think I picked them all up. Hope I've got all the home and aways...
forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk
1956/57 - City 5-4 Chelsea - Didn't happen according to unofficial Chelsea source. 0-2, 2-2, 2-3, 3-3, 3-4, 5-4.
1956/57 - City 4-5 Newcastle United - AET - FA Cup - Didn't happen. 3-0, 3-3, 4-3, 4-4, 4-5.
Amazing Comebacks?
I've been asked if Manchester City have ever thrown away a four goal lead... I've not started searching but there is a game in 1957 that saw City throw away a 3-0 lead in the first 30 minutes. The game ended in a 5-4 defeat and here's the story of that match as told in…
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1957/58 - Sheff Wed 4-5 City
1957/58 - Leicester City 8-4 City
1959/60 - City 4-6 Wolves - Didn't happen according to footballdatabase.eu, 2-0, 2-3, 3-3, 3-4, 4-4, 4-6. 1960/61 - Arsenal 5-4 City - Didn't happen according to footballdatabase.eu, 3-0, 3-3, 5-3. 1985/86 - City 4-5 Chelsea - Neutral Ground - Full Members Cup - Didn't happen, 0-1, 5-1, 5-4.
2023/24 - Chelsea 4-4 City - Didn't happen, 0-1, 2-1, 3-2, 3-3, 3-4, 4-4.
2025/26 - Fulham 4-5 City
8 wins, 4 draws and 9 losses there. Included the wins because we could have given the lead away in the game.
Haven't actually checked any of them yet. Have to be an FOC to remember seeing one beyond the most recent 3. I'll update as I go.
@Gary James might also be aware of friendlies or maybe wartime games that aren't officially counted.
Gary James
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https://gjfootballarchive.com/2025/12/03/amazing-comebacks/
A 3-0 lead after 30 minutes but then Newcastle started to comeback.
Gary James
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according to this site, we were 3-0 up, drew 3 all at FT and Newcastle won it 5-4 in added time.
Manchester City 4 - 5 Newcastle United | 09/01/1957 | Match Detail | toon1892 ~ a site for Newcastle United fans everywhere...
Details of the game played on 09/01/1957. v. Manchester City at Maine Road, including line-ups, scorers, managers and more...toon1892.com
Amazing Comebacks?
I've been asked if Manchester City have ever thrown away a four goal lead... I've not started searching but there is a game in 1957 that saw City throw away a 3-0 lead in the first 30 minutes. The game ended in a 5-4 defeat and here's the story of that match as told in…
gjfootballarchive.com
Gary James
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Nice work. The next job is to get match reports for these. That 1894-95 game looks interesting, as does Bury in 1925-26. I'll have a trawl through if I get chance.
Found an unofficial Newcastle website saying the 1894/95 game was 2-2 at half time but I wouldn't call it a proper source.
Gary James
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That Newcastle game in 1894 was remarkable as it had a pattern of one team scoring, then the other equalising all the way through, so not a fightback but unusual! Here's a brief report of it:
