All things Jack Grealish

[bobbyowenquiff]

People forget how good he is at retaining possession high up the pitch against the very best teams we ever played. No one in the current team can do that IMO and leads to many counter attacks against us.

Jack was at his best for us in tough away games, especially at Atleti Madrid. A very good option off the bench if we need to keep the ball. But he has to sort himself out for this to happen.

 

[Ban-jani]

Look at him. Look! He's one of us. He found his home at City. City 'til we die, right? Or are we now City until your usefulness has run it's course? We should be rallying around him, helping him get better. You can talk about Jack's ability, but one thing you can never doubt him on was effort.

I'm not giving up on the lad just yet, not when you can clearly see what us and this club means to him. A fresh spell at Everton and look what he did for them. He loves his football, but he's a confidence player. Confidence is up, given free reign and you can see he's got it. Stuck in a formation, playing a 'role' and it stifles him. I think of a fit Foden and Grealish roaming behind Haaland and I see potential.

I'm rooting for him. When his commitment starts lacking, then and only then will I say Jack's time with us is done. But i've not seen that yet, what i've seen is a lad who wants desperately to repay us Blues with good performances, but is doubting himself and is his own biggest critic. A Jack Grealish on form has only ever benefitted City, why would we not want that?

Brilliant post.

He likes a drink when he’s away from football, so what? Unless there’s something I’m missing, Everton haven’t questioned his professionalism.

He was a major reason we had the greatest season we’ll ever have as a club and I personally think he’s a fantastic player.

I’ll be on my death bed in (hopefully) 40/50 years and I’ll be thinking about Pep, there’s no doubt about that, but one oversight for me is how to get the best out of Jack.

Should be playing in the number 10 for us now in my opinion.

I know being a good bloke shouldn’t mean you play for City but he’s probably the best lad we’ve had play for us for a long time, love the way he fucks Cerefin off too, absolutely love the guy:

 

[hilts]

Read plenty of times on here Foden had all these secret physical ailments.

Some people always try to find excuses or create a narrative around a player when there is a loss in form or non-selection.

If Grealish had half the issues some said he had, he wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning and would have forfeited half his annual wages in fines.

The truth is the lad, just like Foden, is emotionally sensitive and sometimes lacks the coping mechanisms for not playing every week.

In regards to both players, certainly Grealish, he spent 16 months picking up innocuous injuries and just couldn't get back the rhythm, which is essential to play every week for Pep and a squad which had Doku and others vying for contention.

Grealish showed at Everton that he can perform when empowered to, exactly as he did through the Treble season.

On top of everything else, he suffered a home invasion with his pregnant missus and family upstairs at the time.

If Jack is wanted back, I would gladly have him over others who have a £40m/£50m price tag in the market place this summer.

The lad, despite everything, showed up for Pep at the Arena and that speaks volumes about his character and, more importantly, a lot of the supposed rumours are just that.

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[hilts]

I have missed the stroll, close to the left touchline, the shimmy, then pass it back to the left back, or 5 yards inside horizontally to a midfielder. I fully realise people in this country have short memories, in the main. They repeatedly vote Tories and Labour back into power. For the money, this likable lad didn't score or assist to many during his tenure. From memory, he had 4 or 5 good weeks towards the end of the Treble season. Not for me.

You can't have watched many of our performances over the last few years if you think possession and recycling of the ball was only a Grealish thing. In fact as you think he had only 4 or 5 good weeks I'm not sure you can actually be a city or football follower tbh.

 

[spacecadet]

You can't have watched many of our performances over the last few years if you think possession and recycling of the ball was only a Grealish thing. In fact as you think he had only 4 or 5 good weeks I'm not sure you can actually be a city or football follower tbh.

Just the 54 seasons watching in the stadiums, home and away. We will probably have to disagree on this. I like the lad as a person, but just feel a vast chunk of his City career was mediocre at best.

 

[hilts]

Just the 54 seasons watching in the stadiums, home and away. We will probably have to disagree on this. I like the lad as a person, but just feel a vast chunk of his City career was mediocre at best.

Fair enough mate, we have just been in the over exaggeration point in this thread for a while.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Read plenty of times on here Foden had all these secret physical ailments.

Some people always try to find excuses or create a narrative around a player when there is a loss in form or non-selection.

If Grealish had half the issues some said he had, he wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning and would have forfeited half his annual wages in fines.

The truth is the lad, just like Foden, is emotionally sensitive and sometimes lacks the coping mechanisms for not playing every week.

In regards to both players, certainly Grealish, he spent 16 months picking up innocuous injuries and just couldn't get back the rhythm, which is essential to play every week for Pep and a squad which had Doku and others vying for contention.

Grealish showed at Everton that he can perform when empowered to, exactly as he did through the Treble season.

On top of everything else, he suffered a home invasion with his pregnant missus and family upstairs at the time.

If Jack is wanted back, I would gladly have him over others who have a £40m/£50m price tag in the market place this summer.

The lad, despite everything, showed up for Pep at the Arena and that speaks volumes about his character and, more importantly, a lot of the supposed rumours are just that.

As someone who usually seems to have his finger on the pulse more than most, I'm quite surprised at this post Scott.

 

[Father Paul]

I would think most people believe he’s just a normal lad who’s lived the life most British lads do through their 20s (just with more money): likes a drink, sometimes gets too pissed, but due to who he is sometimes gets snapped by the papps out and about doing it.

Is it what a professional athlete should be doing? No. But does it mean he’s an alcoholic?

It all depends on how you define alcoholic. Now if you go drinking nearly every day after training and go on the piss after matches, well documented the past with the rags, you may not be a textbook alco but you certainly display a high degree of alcohol dependence. In otherwords it is not black and white and we really don't know to what extent Jack has or does depend on alcohol. However, the reports over many years now of excessive binge drinking certainly constitutes an issue. If not for the man himself then certainly for his employer.

 

[Pollock's Deft Backheader]

I don't know if it's been discussed here already, but has there ever been a player who went away on loan form a top club and then got themselves back into the first team as a regular. I don't mean younger players going for experience obvs.

 

[nijinsky69]

No doubt Jack will end up doing some pre-season training with us hopefully as a prelude to him going back to Everton or elsewhere. Seems like a sound lad but with the exception of 6 months he’s been dog shit for us. Never understood why we signed him in the first place. It was always doomed to fail. We’ve moved on.

 

[hilts]

I don't know if it's been discussed here already, but has there ever been a player who went away on loan form a top club and then got themselves back into the first team as a regular. I don't mean younger players going for experience obvs.

I think the change of manager means although unlikely there is more of a chance.
We may need to cut off Maresca completely from the outside world though like we did with Everton who seemed blissfully unaware of what Bob fron Beswick and Alan from Aus knew, actually everyone apart from one side of Stanley Park.
If bluemoons famous itk's and football specialists get hold of him the lad has no chance :-)

 

[Tugay One Cup]

I just don't think he offers us much and so I don't really get the clamour to bring him back.

He might offer us something slightly different but for the most part, several players in our squad are capable of offering us the same thing and more.

If you could guarantee that he'd be the same Grealish that we had for large parts of the treble season then he'd be of use. If it's the Grealish we got for the vast majority of his time with us then it's a waste of a squad space.

 

[jamielowndes]

I feel like at times he was a little scared by Guardiolas presence as a manager and tactician and just tried to play it safe a lot of the time. If you're not stepping out, at least you arent fucking up. He was so incredibly conservative in some games. It's not a knock on either man, not every player is going to succeed under every manager.


With a manager that doesn't have that kind of stature, it may actually work in his favour. If he wants to be here, I'm fine to see him fight for his place. He clearly has nothing but positives about the club.

 

[madloaf]

Get him back in the squad and assess. No harm in that.

 

[Centurions]

Brilliant post.

He likes a drink when he’s away from football, so what? Unless there’s something I’m missing, Everton haven’t questioned his professionalism.

He was a major reason we had the greatest season we’ll ever have as a club and I personally think he’s a fantastic player.

I’ll be on my death bed in (hopefully) 40/50 years and I’ll be thinking about Pep, there’s no doubt about that, but one oversight for me is how to get the best out of Jack.

Should be playing in the number 10 for us now in my opinion.

I know being a good bloke shouldn’t mean you play for City but he’s probably the best lad we’ve had play for us for a long time, love the way he fucks Cerefin off too, absolutely love the guy:

Without a doubt a top person but I can't recall any manager he's played under regularly playing him as a number 10? Surely that says something?

 

[City_Sean]

I dont really see the point now. He can only play on the left which is now the position Doku has made his own. He can't play on the right and lacks the intelligence to play centrally.

Its best for all that he goes this summer.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

As someone who usually seems to have his finger on the pulse more than most, I'm quite surprised at this post Scott.

Never had a single person at the Club ever tell me he has been fined for a drink problem or they have sought him help for being a functioning alcoholic, which they would be incumbent upon them under duty of care.

Not one injunction request to stop such a story.

Not one person, team-mate or employee telling me that Grealish is anything more than a lad who loves a pint when he is allowed to.

Football is a very small place and no club would take a chance or commit to a £40m option and pay £200k a week towards his wages as Everton have done.

No Club would trust City again in the marketplace to withhold such information on faulty goods.

We heard all this shit at Villa too after The Sun published pics of him as a kid passing out on the piss.

All I will say is that Pep fined Kalvin Phillips two weeks wages for being 4lbs overweight, so having a functioning alcoholic as part of the the squad doesn't fly for me.

 

[wayne71]

I doubt many functioning alcoholics have the abs Jack does!

I heard Kyle in a recent interview say he just didn't understand what Pep was asking of him and just used his pace and power to get by.

Maybe Jack also struggled to understand and just ended up playing within himself?

Who knows but I wouldn't personally be unhappy to see him get another chance.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Get him back in the squad and assess. No harm in that.

The sooner Maresca takes over the better. It will give him time to make decisions on the future of players like Lewis, Savinho, Grealish, Nico G etc. who are not going to the World Cup.

 

[pepguardiola'smoustache]

Never had a single person at the Club ever tell me he has been fined for a drink problem or they have sought him help for being a functioning alcoholic, which they would be incumbent upon them under duty of care.

Not one injunction request to stop such a story.

Not one person, team-mate or employee telling me that Grealish is anything more than a lad who loves a pint when he is allowed to.

Football is a very small place and no club would take a chance or commit to a £40m option and pay £200k a week towards his wages as Everton have done.

No Club would trust City again in the marketplace to withhold such information on faulty goods.

We heard all this shit at Villa too after The Sun published pics of him as a kid passing out on the piss.

All I will say is that Pep fined Kalvin Phillips two weeks wages for being 4lbs overweight, so having a functioning alcoholic as part of the the squad doesn't fly for me.

thank you for this