Fascism and the British right.

whp.blue said:
hilts said:
whp.blue said:
no probs I read it about four times as well

Rascal just seems to get upset, mainly out of frustration, because he knows he is always correct and we can't always see it with his clarity!

A bit like Jesus in that respect, the blind cannot see

#frustration

Not sure if any comparison between Jesus and Rascal should be considered no matter how obscure. He may run with it!

Come to think of it he did milk the El presidente for all its worth, the messiah could tip him over the edge into complete power hungry insanity

I think we should stick with wolfie smith
 
Don't the rwnj's on here realise that they're being controlled by the elite under the hooded cloak that is fascism?

Come on have the balls to admit that you are indeed goose stepping fascists.........or maybe you're too thick to realise this.

Yeah, you're probably the latter silly me.
 
Jesus! There's plenty of competition on here for worst thread, but this must be close. As someone said earlier, some posters have too much time on their hands.
 
whp.blue said:
Rascal just seems to get upset, mainly out of frustration, because he knows he is always correct and we can't always see it with his clarity!

I dont get upset. I just hate fascists with a passion. I hate the uncaring, ignoble, selfishness of the far right wing.

Is that clear enough?
 
OK as none of you have given any arguments i will.


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

UKIP are a nationalist party, the Tories love to wrap themselves in the Union Flag


2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

A large number of Tory MPs want us to withdraw from the ECHR

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Anti-Immigration rhetoric from UKIP and the Tories at every available opportunity



4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

UKIP guarenteeing miltary spending and ex soldiers jobs



5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

UKIP dont like women much and remember that Tory front bench?


6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

The majority of the UK press is owned by right wing Non-Doms who donate to either the Tories or UKIP



7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

The Tories want to spy on your emails, texts under the pretext of stopping terrorism



8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

The Church of England used to be the Tory party at prayer. UKIP will allow Christian migrants

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Fucking hell where do you start with this. Banks big business all appear to back the Tories. Privatisation is the reward. Government contratcs handed to them and tax evasion is commonplace

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

We already have some of the harshest anti Union laws in the western world. The Tories want more.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

The BBC is attacked constantly by the Tories and UKIP. Intellectuals such as Ed Milibands father and Eric Hobshawn are derided. The old school tie network still exists.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

Already got the largest % prison population in the EU and the Tories want more prisons. Protests such as Uncut are moved on forcibly. Boris has bought water cannons ffs. Civil liberties are curtailed such as freedom of movement.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

The Tories call it the Chipping Norton set

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

The Tories introduced the new voter registraion rules knowing that with so many families being transient they would not vote. Gerrymanding at its most obscene


So I will ask again how many of you are Fascists?
 
Rascal said:
OK as none of you have given any arguments i will.


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

UKIP are a nationalist party, the Tories love to wrap themselves in the Union Flag


2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

A large number of Tory MPs want us to withdraw from the ECHR

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Anti-Immigration rhetoric from UKIP and the Tories at every available opportunity



4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

UKIP guarenteeing miltary spending and ex soldiers jobs



5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

UKIP dont like women much and remember that Tory front bench?


6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

The majority of the UK press is owned by right wing Non-Doms who donate to either the Tories or UKIP



7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

The Tories want to spy on your emails, texts under the pretext of stopping terrorism



8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

The Church of England used to be the Tory party at prayer. UKIP will allow Christian migrants

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Fucking hell where do you start with this. Banks big business all appear to back the Tories. Privatisation is the reward. Government contratcs handed to them and tax evasion is commonplace

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

We already have some of the harshest anti Union laws in the western world. The Tories want more.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

The BBC is attacked constantly by the Tories and UKIP. Intellectuals such as Ed Milibands father and Eric Hobshawn are derided. The old school tie network still exists.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

Already got the largest % prison population in the EU and the Tories want more prisons. Protests such as Uncut are moved on forcibly. Boris has bought water cannons ffs. Civil liberties are curtailed such as freedom of movement.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

The Tories call it the Chipping Norton set

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

The Tories introduced the new voter registraion rules knowing that with so many families being transient they would not vote. Gerrymanding at its most obscene


So I will ask again how many of you are Fascists?

no one bit
looks like you wrote the bits in blue first then the bits in black to make it all fit together
 
whp.blue said:
Rascal said:
OK as none of you have given any arguments i will.


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

UKIP are a nationalist party, the Tories love to wrap themselves in the Union Flag


2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

A large number of Tory MPs want us to withdraw from the ECHR

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Anti-Immigration rhetoric from UKIP and the Tories at every available opportunity



4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

UKIP guarenteeing miltary spending and ex soldiers jobs



5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

UKIP dont like women much and remember that Tory front bench?


6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

The majority of the UK press is owned by right wing Non-Doms who donate to either the Tories or UKIP



7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

The Tories want to spy on your emails, texts under the pretext of stopping terrorism



8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

The Church of England used to be the Tory party at prayer. UKIP will allow Christian migrants

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Fucking hell where do you start with this. Banks big business all appear to back the Tories. Privatisation is the reward. Government contratcs handed to them and tax evasion is commonplace

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

We already have some of the harshest anti Union laws in the western world. The Tories want more.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

The BBC is attacked constantly by the Tories and UKIP. Intellectuals such as Ed Milibands father and Eric Hobshawn are derided. The old school tie network still exists.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

Already got the largest % prison population in the EU and the Tories want more prisons. Protests such as Uncut are moved on forcibly. Boris has bought water cannons ffs. Civil liberties are curtailed such as freedom of movement.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

The Tories call it the Chipping Norton set

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

The Tories introduced the new voter registraion rules knowing that with so many families being transient they would not vote. Gerrymanding at its most obscene


So I will ask again how many of you are Fascists?

no one bit
looks like you wrote the bits in blue first then the bits in black to make it all fit together

#prayforRascal
 

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