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    VAR thread 2022/23

    Doesn't it trouble you that the laws of the game have been altered in order to accommodate VAR? Under the pre-VAR laws as they were Kane would have been played on by the deflection.
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    They can't be allowed to win, otherwise the sport is doomed.
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    He's supposed to have autonomy when it comes to decisions. His ability to make decisions have been compromised.
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    It was disgusting. While the Spurs player were protesting and saying "The ball's gone backwards." All he did was stand there like a robot saying "it's offside. it's offside."
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    Just shows that he wsn't the one who made the decision. He took his marching orders from the VARs in his ear. He was told to chalk off the goal due to being "told" that it was offsides.
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    Daylight wasn't in the laws of the game, but in effect was how offsides was determined before VAR due to offsides being called in real-time. Before VAR, if there wasn't daylight seen, generally linesmen would keep their flags down and deem players to be onside that were "about level". So while...
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    Like once in a blue moon!! You're acting like this was a common occurrence. It wasn't. Rarely was there penalties given for zero contact. What you're describing is when a player embellishes slight contact and falls over trying to get a penalty. Contact in the box and attackers sometimes over...
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    The Varce Continues in Madrid : A penalty was awarded after the full time whistle had gone, for a handball in the box off a deflected header from a corner. Game is gone. Remember how the handball law changed earlier this year to only award penalties for deliberate handballs now. Well then...
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    And one more thing on this. The fact that the ball was played backwards off the header is important. Many claimed that this didn't matter. But in effect it does, because it's not just Kane being slightly ahead of the last defender when the header was played backwards, it's also whether he was...
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    I'd like to further illustrate the problem that VAR has caused to the understanding of what offside is within the context of the laws. As you may know, over the summer FIFA has redefined the idea of a deliberate play of the ball as it pertains to when a phase is deemed to reset and if situations...
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    Yes. Officiating without VAR. You know, the normal way it has been done all our lives before this mad scientist experiment was cooked up.
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    It seems that you're starting to see the problem with VAR. Taking ages to make a decision : that's what VAR does. That's how VAR works, that's what VAR is. Yes, the longer the delay, the worse it is, because you are excruciatingly waiting for "permission" to celebrate or to breathe a sigh of...
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    Well sure, the manufacturers of the technology. All the monitors, earpieces, communication system being bought by FIFA, the Premier League, etc. But what I'm getting at is that for the leagues, clubs etc, it's an expense. It's a cost that wasn't there before, not only to buy the equipment but to...
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    Not really. VAR costs a lot of money. Football as a sport is a commercial success, and since VAR is associated with the sport, it's creating the appearance that VAR is a commercial success. VAR is actually a significant cost to clubs, leagues and fans. VAR has directly resulted in higher ticket...
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    Well they would just be there for the howler, they shouldn't be getting involved much at all. They would just be there in case of something blatant that was missed. Your complaint that they did "fuck all" when that was tried in the past isn't a bad thing. That was probably because there was no...
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    I don't think you need any more than 2 linesman. The natural "human" way of calling offsides worked well because in some cases it is a judgement call. And when players were "about level" generally the benefit of the doubt would be given to the attacker, which worked quite well. Now with VAR it's...
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    Being a referee without VAR was a lot easier for them to do their job. There were no distractions, there was no one in your ear telling you to second guess your decisions throughout the match. There was no running over to a monitor to force you into obsessing over subjective decisions and...
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    The standard of refereeing before VAR was not inconsistent and downright farcical though! All of the inconsistencies that we're experiencing nowadays are due to VAR. The changes to the law (i.e. handball) are all VAR-induced changes that have created confusion. Before VAR, we all somehow knew...
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    VAR thread 2022/23

    Fans not accepting certain contentious decisions was part of the passion of the sport. Being upset at a bad call during a knock down drag out match is really a sign that fans are fully engaged in the match. If a ref makes a bad call, it's perfectly normal and a sign of a healthy sport for fans...

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