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Right I support Manchester clubs, I want both teams (and others in the area) to do well. It means I'm objective so here's a bit of insight. Yeah United are getting concerned about City, the banter has escalated and changed and it's great for the city generally, having two top teams. Of course...

...yeah lad at Wetherby's, granted nobody deserves to be hospitalised match related i were juss respondin to the 'Killed' quote above as it leaves a bad taste on a sensible thread ;) Sorry,genuine mistake. No offence intended

Just double checked and yeah that's right, my apologies. It was '89 though

Was 1990 after OT n' NOBODY was killed ! Sure it was after the 5-1 at Maine Road, a fan got stabbed and while it was closed it got torched and didn't reopen til 2005. I'm pretty sure about this, my family all lived in Ancoats and used to drink in there, we took my grandad to the reopening...

The Crown and Kettle on the corner of Oldham Road and Great Ancoats Street was a big,big blue pub for years until it was shut in 1989 after it was trashed on derby day and someone was killed. It now gets plenty of blues in on matchdays but is split otherwise, think the gaffer's a big red but...