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Vinny came out with these comments in my post-match interview with him, and we carried every word of it in the MEN - I gave it to the official site at City's request, and some nationals and the BBC picked it up. But those of you who spout the MUEN nonsense shouldn't let that get in the way of...

My favourite was when KotK editor Dave Wallace told me he had been accused of being a "Rag c***" Talk about people having Reds under the bed!

Some fair points, but just one or two things: The Hillsborough shirt story was published, here: <a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1132581_sports_store_sorry_for_hillsborough_united_shirt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Best post of the entire thread - absolutely bang on, and put better than anything I have said. Are you after my job?

^^ Excellent post, very well reasoned and accurate. Couple of points - the club also poured a load of money into their own website, and give it priority over everyone, which is understandable. That has caused the MEN relationship with the club to be re-aligned - we have had to take a more...

So you are suggesting I don't write any positive articles, or challenge the national media when they write nonsense about City? What about this: <a class="postlink"...

The quotes will have been sourced from the same interview, and I honestly don't know what the source was, whether a Sun exclusive, or MUTV or what. But you only noticed it because you deemed it to be anti-City. It is much more likely to have been an under-pressure PA sub-editor only being able...

This is pathetic - it comes from five days after the title win. Why didn't you show the headlines from the previous four days, when we ran page after page after page of praise, positivity and glory, glory stuff about City? By this point we had said just about everything there was to be said...

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong As well as spending most of my day off yesterday trying to answer stuff on here, you want me to chase up links as well? The only thing I can say about that article is that it is a news article, clearly done by a news reporter who hasn't got much of a clue about...

Very simple explanation. The story wasn't lifted from The Sun at all. The story came from the Press Association, which every newspaper in the country subscribes to (commonly known as the wire). The CITY FAN who runs our online sports operation monitors stories coming in on the wire and puts up...

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong This is the problem - I listened to this as well, and you have clearly only heard what you wanted to hear to back up your argument. 1. He talked about United because he was asked specifically about Fergie saying he hoped Atheltic Bilbao would go on and win the...

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong Now you've just confirmed it, it will be the front page splash tomorrow . . . nothing like a nice piece of ass. Anyhow, I have to write some blathering nonsense about this Team GB football match, so I'd better say bye. To those who have been fair and rational...

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong This is nonsense - he doesn't ever refer to United as "we". You might have misheard him referring to the MEN as "we". For a start, the sports editor is not, and never has been, a United fan, so he wouldn't even do it in an unguarded moment. Go on Talksport's website...

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong This is at the heart of the problem. Somebody posts bollox on BM, and people accept it as gospel, without checking it for themselves. The bollox invariably backs up the notion that the MEN is anti-City, and that is how this bullshit perpetuates.

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong Fair enough; if you're going to use that old comeback. What about those who do think there's a bias; Their views don't count, because they are plain wrong. Remember, if there is a bias at the MEN, I would have to be the main purveyor of that bias. here isn't, and I...

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong Without looking back, I thought the poster said we didn't report the IPO float when it was announced six weeks ago. As for not reporting that it was dead, hoe about this: <a class="postlink"...

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong You mean this one: <a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/23889_derby_day_united_left_red_faced" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ...

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong Yes, of course they can be all wrong. They ARE all wrong Six hundred years ago, just about everyone thought the earth was flat. Surely they weren't all wrong? You are also ignoring the fact that there are plenty of City fans, on BM and beyond, who DON'T think there...

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong which article was this? have you a link?

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong I agree that was a poor headline on the Helen Turner article, but just bad English rather than any bid to have a go at City. As for Mitten, he's a good lad and a good, knowledgeable writer. I'm not sure what you refer to as the fairy tales, or him taking the piss