MUEN - what's gone wrong?

[Nixon_The_Bike_Thief]

Tick tock, tick tock. Seems its not only suitable for your overlords lol The sooner the M.E.N goes the way of Today and The Messenger the better.

 

[oakiecokie]

Tick tock, tick tock. Seems its not only suitable for your overlords lol The sooner the M.E.N goes the way of Today and The Messenger the better.

The better for who ??

 

[stuart brennan]

Here's how positive the headlines were about City just after we had won the league....

This is pathetic - it comes from five days after the title win. Why didn't you show the headlines from the previous four days, when we ran page after page after page of praise, positivity and glory, glory stuff about City?
By this point we had said just about everything there was to be said about it, and I took a day off.
If the MEN had been so selective about something to do with City, you would accuse us of having an anti-City agenda. Does this mean you have an anti-MEN agenda?

 

[oakiecokie]

Here's how positive the headlines were about City just after we had won the league....

This is pathetic - it comes from five days after the title win. Why didn't you show the headlines from the previous four days, when we ran page after page after page of praise, positivity and glory, glory stuff about City?
By this point we had said just about everything there was to be said about it, and I took a day off.
If the MEN had been so selective about something to do with City, you would accuse us of having an anti-City agenda. Does this mean you have an anti-MEN agenda?

Not only that SB,but there`s fuck all negative about the pictures and stories linked to them.
Even now NDJ is being linked to other clubs,as is Tevez,but no idea as to where you got the Balo idea from,as its the first time I`ve seen that.
As the old adage goes "don`t let the bastards grind you down" mate. ;)

 

[Barcon]

Here's how positive the headlines were about City just after we had won the league....

This is pathetic - it comes from five days after the title win. Why didn't you show the headlines from the previous four days, when we ran page after page after page of praise, positivity and glory, glory stuff about City?
By this point we had said just about everything there was to be said about it, and I took a day off.
If the MEN had been so selective about something to do with City, you would accuse us of having an anti-City agenda. Does this mean you have an anti-MEN agenda?

Not only that SB,but there`s fuck all negative about the pictures and stories linked to them.
Even now NDJ is being linked to other clubs,as is Tevez,but no idea as to where you got the Balo idea from,as its the first time I`ve seen that.
As the old adage goes "don`t let the bastards grind you down" mate. ;)P.S, what time you coming on saturday? You'r Mums making egg and chips. ;)

 

[ABU inc GDR]

Heres a story posted on the MUEN today which is taken directly from the same story posted in the SUN by Neil Custus yesterday...The only problem is the favourable comments about City wining the title have been edited from the MUEN story. Why would a supposed impartial media outlet put such a bias slant on a story favouring one local team over the other??

MUEN post on 30th July 2012
Manchester City celebrations will spark Manchester United - Paul Scholes
Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes will use Manchester City's final day celebrations as his motivating force in the 2012/13 campaign.
The Reds lost out on the Premier League title on goal difference, and Scholes is still feeling the sting of the finale.
"It's always a motivating force when you lose the league," he said.
"It's not nice to see another team celebrate winning the title on the last day of the season. That picture stays with you."

Sun post 29th July 2012
Paul Scholes says Manchester City deserved to win the title
PAUL SCHOLES says Manchester City have raised the bar in the Premier League and it is now up to everyone else to reach higher.Only goal difference separated champions City from Manchester United at the end of last season. But according to Scholes that wafer-thin gap really painted over a bigger crack between the two sides.Now he says it is time for United to stop believing they are City’s equal and set about bridging the gap.
“As much as I don’t want to admit it, City were good to watch and probably played the best football, so from that aspect they were the best team and deserved to win it.
“They have raised the bar, so now it’s up to us to kick on and do better than they did.”
“We failed at the end of last season, we should have won the league and didn’t.
“It was a major disappointment to lose the league.”
“It’s not nice when you see another team celebrating winning the league on the last day of the season and that picture stays with you.
"It's always a motivating force when you lose the league," he said.
“It is in your head and you don’t want it to happen again.”

You don't really need to add anything else...says it all!!!

Very simple explanation.
The story wasn't lifted from The Sun at all. The story came from the Press Association, which every newspaper in the country subscribes to (commonly known as the wire).
The CITY FAN who runs our online sports operation monitors stories coming in on the wire and puts up every story he thinks will be of interest to MEN online readers. Here is the story which he received:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premier-league/manchester-united/news/article/330/7947136/scholes-keen-to-carry-on" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sportinglife.com/football/pr ... o-carry-on</a>

(The reason I have linked to the Sporting Life site is because they simply put up every PA story)
I've not spoken to him, but I'm pretty sure that our man picked up that PA story, which didn't use the other quotes at all, and decided that the England stuff at the top was not as interesting as the Manchester stuff at the bottom.
He didn't see the Sun quotes, as they weren't in the PA story.

Stuart thankyou for your explaination, however both articles must have been originally sourced from the same interview as they included two quotes which were identical. Unfortunately your direct source had already edited what Paul Scholes had said which gave a completely different slant to the story. It allowed the PA to use their own terminology like "gifted the title" when what Paul Scholes had actualy said was quite graciously "the best team had won the title and had played the better football".

I am suprised that the PA would employ any journalist who would think that they could convey an accurate account of any story by omitting direct quotations. The editing of this piece by the PA and their inclusion of certain terminology appears to put a completely bias slant on what was actually said.

Stuart this is precisly the problem that most City fans have not just with the MEN but with the media as a whole.

 

[oakiecokie]

This is pathetic - it comes from five days after the title win. Why didn't you show the headlines from the previous four days, when we ran page after page after page of praise, positivity and glory, glory stuff about City?
By this point we had said just about everything there was to be said about it, and I took a day off.
If the MEN had been so selective about something to do with City, you would accuse us of having an anti-City agenda. Does this mean you have an anti-MEN agenda?

Not only that SB,but there`s fuck all negative about the pictures and stories linked to them.
Even now NDJ is being linked to other clubs,as is Tevez,but no idea as to where you got the Balo idea from,as its the first time I`ve seen that.
As the old adage goes "don`t let the bastards grind you down" mate. ;)P.S, what time you coming on saturday? You'r Mums making egg and chips. ;)

Hey mate that means I can have Egg,chips and Barcon !! ;) See you Sat.

 

[ABU inc GDR]

If you speak to football fans in general, then they will all claim that their local newspaper is biased against their club, especially if that Town or City has more than club. In my view MEN don't have a particular bias against us, it is down to how you interpret the angle of the story.

Explain infamous & andy mitten,in general have you actually read the MEN?
"no bias,interpret angle",you read you see,if a lie is told it's a lie,if a jouno lies about what a dead person was in real life it is a lie.
No angle,no bias,no interpretation or claim,just factual.

Yes I have read the MEN, and ok they have given a rag a coloumn to fill , prehaps we should suggest having a Blue Writer as well, there are a few posters on Blue Moon who can do the job. However in my opinion their reporting has been fair to us, we have high points in our history but too few of them. Like it or not they had been the most successful club for the best part of 20 years, we can't change that. Our time has now arrived and in my view, the way we are being percieved in the press will change over time as well.

In my opnion from a local paper fair is not enough!..If you can't get positive support from your local paper where else will it come from. I don't just mean in the articles that are printed, the journo's who interact with other media people should positively promte City, regardless of their rivalry which should remain a thing to be resolved by the players on the pitch.

You talk about football success, that's nothing compared to the legacy we are building in the community. I doubt there is any other club that does half the work we do in the community with youth development work and involvement with charities. The money being invested in the training accademy is unique in this country and something for everyone in Manchester to be proud of. When City's name is mentioned in the press it's always followed with terms like "sugar daddy" and "oil money" but that's not half of the story and it's time City fans stopped accepting these negative stereotypes of the club!!The local journo's are in the best position to help change the mindset of the media.

 

[Barcon]

Not only that SB,but there`s fuck all negative about the pictures and stories linked to them.
Even now NDJ is being linked to other clubs,as is Tevez,but no idea as to where you got the Balo idea from,as its the first time I`ve seen that.
As the old adage goes "don`t let the bastards grind you down" mate. ;)P.S, what time you coming on saturday? You'r Mums making egg and chips. ;)

Hey mate that means I can have Egg,chips and Barcon !! ;) See you Sat.

Lol. ;)

 

[sugardubby]

Heres a story posted on the MUEN today which is taken directly from the same story posted in the SUN by Neil Custus yesterday...The only problem is the favourable comments about City wining the title have been edited from the MUEN story. Why would a supposed impartial media outlet put such a bias slant on a story favouring one local team over the other??

MUEN post on 30th July 2012
Manchester City celebrations will spark Manchester United - Paul Scholes
Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes will use Manchester City's final day celebrations as his motivating force in the 2012/13 campaign.
The Reds lost out on the Premier League title on goal difference, and Scholes is still feeling the sting of the finale.
"It's always a motivating force when you lose the league," he said.
"It's not nice to see another team celebrate winning the title on the last day of the season. That picture stays with you."

Sun post 29th July 2012
Paul Scholes says Manchester City deserved to win the title
PAUL SCHOLES says Manchester City have raised the bar in the Premier League and it is now up to everyone else to reach higher.Only goal difference separated champions City from Manchester United at the end of last season. But according to Scholes that wafer-thin gap really painted over a bigger crack between the two sides.Now he says it is time for United to stop believing they are City’s equal and set about bridging the gap.
“As much as I don’t want to admit it, City were good to watch and probably played the best football, so from that aspect they were the best team and deserved to win it.
“They have raised the bar, so now it’s up to us to kick on and do better than they did.”
“We failed at the end of last season, we should have won the league and didn’t.
“It was a major disappointment to lose the league.”
“It’s not nice when you see another team celebrating winning the league on the last day of the season and that picture stays with you.
"It's always a motivating force when you lose the league," he said.
“It is in your head and you don’t want it to happen again.”

You don't really need to add anything else...says it all!!!

Very simple explanation.
The story wasn't lifted from The Sun at all. The story came from the Press Association, which every newspaper in the country subscribes to (commonly known as the wire).
The CITY FAN who runs our online sports operation monitors stories coming in on the wire and puts up every story he thinks will be of interest to MEN online readers. Here is the story which he received:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premier-league/manchester-united/news/article/330/7947136/scholes-keen-to-carry-on" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sportinglife.com/football/pr ... o-carry-on</a>

(The reason I have linked to the Sporting Life site is because they simply put up every PA story)
I've not spoken to him, but I'm pretty sure that our man picked up that PA story, which didn't use the other quotes at all, and decided that the England stuff at the top was not as interesting as the Manchester stuff at the bottom.
He didn't see the Sun quotes, as they weren't in the PA story.

Sorry to be pedantic Stuart, but just to get this right: the Sun ran the complimentary (and indeed gracious in defeat) line from Scholes about City but our own local paper didn't see fit to? See the problem yet?



And if fellow Bluemooners want to see where the MEN sources it's local football stories from, have a peek at <a class="postlink" href="http://www.pressassociation.com/sport/sports/football.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.pressassociation.com/sport/s ... tball.html</a>

Check out their picture of the current Premiership champions halfway down....I rest my case.