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On a vaguely related theme, we can expect Manure to be drawn against Olympiakos while City will meet Real Madrid or, if we are lucky, Barcelona. If we had scored five last night (as goal difference does matter if the head to head is the same), we would have drawn Borussia Dortmund or Juventus...

Are you another one who switched off after only 15 minutes? Patience is always a virtue where MCFC are concerned

Don't you think that Hart stopped enough shots in Munich to regain his place? After all, Pants has not exactly set the world alight, just a competent no.2

The UEFA rules state that; If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied to determine the rankings (in descending order): a) higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question; b) superior...

Having not read through all of the previous pages, all that needs doing here is to reproduce the UEFA Rules from which you will see that a 4-2 win would NOT have taken us to the top of the group, viz: The UEFA rules; If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches...

WBA 2-2 MCFC Until VK and Nasty are back together and with a few games under their belt, I don't see us gaining on the Arse. However, it's a long season.

Having predicted 2-2 against Tottenham, I will go for the same score against Swansea.

Re: City Vs Viktoria Plzen Pre Match Discussion Thread According to MEN, Giddo may play a part in the Plzen game. The CL squad does not include our youngsters. I may be wrong.

Swap him for that big German central defender at Arsenal and maybe a deal could be struck.

Without Silva, Kompany and possibly Fernandinho, I predict a tough 2-2 as Tottenham generally play well against us and have been unlucky to lose at the Etihad in recent years. We definitely need to avoid defeat though.

At least that means he definitely won't be playing any silly international friendlies. Does anybody know if the likes of Yaya, Zabaleta, Sergio and Negredo will be travelling anywhere?

Re: Clueless manager Colin Bellsend needs to be severely reprimanded for his knee jerk reaction. What were City fans saying about Pellegrini after the 7-0 thrashing of Norwich (who beat us last season) and the 5-2 trouncing of CSKA Moscow? Some of you Bluemooners are so fickle. According to my...