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    Racism in Football

    That's a bunch of unproven conspiracy theorism but for the sake of argument, let's say it's all true. What does the Argentinian people have to do with the decision of a few folks in power?
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    Racism in Football

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgda34/human-zoo-france-safari-africain
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    Racism in Football

    But that's exactly the ignorance, the folks that made that song didn't think of the white players as French immigrants. If yall think this song is bad, you don't want to hear the original version, which Nueva Chicago made for Duck Sud (two lower tier Argentinian teams) XD
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    Racism in Football

    It's ignorant because here it is used as an anti-colonialism chant, while omitting how racist it is. It also lacks self-awareness, since every single person in Argentina has immigrant ancestry. But then again, nobody here thinks twice about the lyrics nor take it as serious as in other parts of...
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    Racism in Football

    But that's the thing, sometimes you don't realize what you are saying, or you think it's OK in a specific context. I'm sure 99% of 90's rappers didn't actually thought about gay people when using the F word. Another example: one of my best friends is gay, and when we go to matches, he sings...
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    Racism in Football

    To me there's a huge difference between ignorantly having discriminatory actions (which absolutely all of us have had at some point of our lives) vs being a true bigot. Nowadays, the true bigots are probably the most PC of all. They will never say anything out of place in public but in their...
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    Racism in Football

    I'm not defending the chant at all, it's ignorant, racist and transphobic. I'm just giving context and trying to explain why a person singing said song doesn't automatically make him a racist or transphobe. 90% of Argentinian football chants have some kind of...
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    Racism in Football

    What's Argentina's role, that it supossedly harbored Nazis? Ok, how's that any more significant than having a zoo of black people in 1994? It is very funny to me how you and that Freshie (or whatever his username is) guy are trying to act all high and mighty while being the most xenophobic...
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    Racism in Football

    I'm still waiting for that Argentinian "history of racism". Just as a heads up, this isn't Argentina: https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgda34/human-zoo-france-safari-africain
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    Racism in Football

    And what's this history of racism Argentina has, that makes it any more special than any other history of racism in any other country?
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    Racism in Football

    The irony of this guy acting self-righteous on this thread XD
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    Racism in Football

    I'm not saying it wasn't racist, I was just explaining what the intention of the song was, understanding, more than anyone here, the idiosyncrasy of Argentinian football chants. Also, being bilingual, realizing what is lost in translation and sounds worse than it actually was intended in...
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    Racism in Football

    I'm 100% with you, but it is like you said: everybody has commited or said discriminatory actions/remarks at some point, everybody. And anyone saying they haven't, it's just lying to themselves. The thing is that commiting, saying these things doesn't automatically make you a racist/bigot. I've...
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    Racism in Football

    Ok, but that has nothing to do with what I was arguing haha.
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    Racism in Football

    I don't know why you think that comment was meant for you when I quoted someone else haha.
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    Racism in Football

    Yes, I missed your last part. Still, it is not the same. The difference is that you can sing about murder without being a murderer, just like you may use a racist or homophobic remark without being racist nor homophobic in your core. If I can concede something, is that Argentina is clearly...
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    Racism in Football

    Great examlple. Do you really think all those Mexicans singing that are homophobic? If I were to bet, I'm sure more than a couple of gay Mexicans sing it XD
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    Racism in Football

    What's the principle for you to be so clearly biased towards Argentina and generalize about the totality of us?
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    Racism in Football

    You can't compare singing about murdering people to actually comitting murder, can you?

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