Rammyblues
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Monday 8th July
thanksRammyblues said:Monday 8th July
Would he go to Serie A? Italian club football is on its knees.I'm no cynic said:richards30 said:1dart said:Seems the wrong way around that but what do i know.
No point in negotiating with the club unless we know the player wants to come?
It's the agents who do all the negotiating. Some agents [Kia for one] still think they own the player, though they would reply that they were only 'managing' his career. Once a player has discussed the possibility of a lucrative move with his agent, often without the parent club having any knowledge of it, that agent will talk to agents of other clubs. Players have agents, so do managers, and I think Kia was also Cook's agent [though I stand to be corrected], so from this I think it's fair to say the system is rotten as far as the paying supporter is concerned.
-- Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:33 am --
Daz_Blue said:suvommukherjee08 said:Napoli, Dzeko is first choice to replace Cavani: the options
Articolo pubblicato venerdì 5 luglio 2013 alle 14:16 - Calciomercato, Inglese.
Napoli is pondering life after Cavani. The Uruguayan is very close to joining Paris St Germain, Leonardo’s offer is very appealing. Therefore Napoli will have to replace the striker who scored many goals in the past few seasons. The first choice is Edin Dzeko. Manchester City has acquired Negredo in the past few hours, and is now working on acquiring Osvaldo, so their request for Dzeko could be lower now. Other options are Jovetic and Damiao, The Montenegro striker has agreed in principle to a deal with Juventus, and at the moment it appears there have been no offers for him. Damiao was contacted when Zenit pursued Cavani a few months ago, even though he isn’t familiar with Italian football. Cavani is on his way out, and Napoli ponders his replacement.
By Gianluca Di Marzio.
Dzeko will not be sold unless the clubs valuation is reached in full ....our own version of the release clause
And to a club with £53m to spend, I reckon we should be asking at least £33m.
Marvin said:Would he go to Serie A? Italian club football is on its knees.I'm no cynic said:richards30 said:No point in negotiating with the club unless we know the player wants to come?
It's the agents who do all the negotiating. Some agents [Kia for one] still think they own the player, though they would reply that they were only 'managing' his career. Once a player has discussed the possibility of a lucrative move with his agent, often without the parent club having any knowledge of it, that agent will talk to agents of other clubs. Players have agents, so do managers, and I think Kia was also Cook's agent [though I stand to be corrected], so from this I think it's fair to say the system is rotten as far as the paying supporter is concerned.
-- Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:33 am --
Daz_Blue said:Dzeko will not be sold unless the clubs valuation is reached in full ....our own version of the release clause
And to a club with £53m to spend, I reckon we should be asking at least £33m.
When you've got players like Kevin Prince Boateng playing regularly for AC Milan and Balotelli becomes the star striker in that league scoring virtually a goal a game, you have to wonder about the standard of that league. Serie A used to be the place to play football, and each Summer Italian clubs would by the cream of Europe and Africa. That changed years ago, and the results are now being seen.I'm no cynic said:Marvin said:Would he go to Serie A? Italian club football is on its knees.I'm no cynic said:It's the agents who do all the negotiating. Some agents [Kia for one] still think they own the player, though they would reply that they were only 'managing' his career. Once a player has discussed the possibility of a lucrative move with his agent, often without the parent club having any knowledge of it, that agent will talk to agents of other clubs. Players have agents, so do managers, and I think Kia was also Cook's agent [though I stand to be corrected], so from this I think it's fair to say the system is rotten as far as the paying supporter is concerned.
-- Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:33 am --
And to a club with £53m to spend, I reckon we should be asking at least £33m.
If the right offer comes in, I'm sure any player would consider it. Napoli will certainly have the money so I can't see Edin having any problems there. But your comment raises an interesting point. A proven goal scorer like Cavani might just find our own league a bit too tough, certainly tough enough for City and Chelsea to resist from paying the silly money that Napoli have been asking.
BillyShears said:People should chill. This one WILL get done.
Ridiculous. Cavani is an excellent player.Marvin said:When you've got players like Kevin Prince Boateng playing regularly for AC Milan and Balotelli becomes the star striker in that league scoring virtually a goal a game, you have to wonder about the standard of that league. Serie A used to be the place to play football, and each Summer Italian clubs would by the cream of Europe and Africa. That changed years ago, and the results are now being seen.I'm no cynic said:Marvin said:Would he go to Serie A? Italian club football is on its knees.
If the right offer comes in, I'm sure any player would consider it. Napoli will certainly have the money so I can't see Edin having any problems there. But your comment raises an interesting point. A proven goal scorer like Cavani might just find our own league a bit too tough, certainly tough enough for City and Chelsea to resist from paying the silly money that Napoli have been asking.
BillyShears said:People should chill. This one WILL get done.
Jumanji said:ITK Billy or some simple addition (2+2)?BillyShears said:People should chill. This one WILL get done.
BillyShears said:Jumanji said:ITK Billy or some simple addition (2+2)?BillyShears said:People should chill. This one WILL get done.
Simple arithmetic. :)
doomuk said:BillyShears said:People should chill. This one WILL get done.
I'm not convinced that this is good news!!
I maintain that it appears we are selling our star names and replacing them with older less known players.
If we're to become the biggest club I the world then we need to be aiming higher than Negredo.
Well, I`m convinced. Bring on augustswifty said:Decent write up of what Negredo could bring..
Negredo is coming off the back of the most successful campaign of his entire career in terms of goalscoring with the Sevilla forward netting an impressive twenty five goals in La Liga during the 2012-2013 campaign which totalled up to thirty one when his six strikes in the Copa del Rey were taken into account. Negredo standing at six feet and one inch is nicknamed ‘La fiera de Vallecas’ which is translated to ‘The beast of Vallecas’ with the Spanish forward being renowned for using his physical attributes to power past a defender to create a goalscoring opportunity for himself. Negredo would be able to adapt to the physical nature of the Premier League with little effort, he can hold up the ball and bring midfielders into attacking moves as we saw so often with Negredo and Jesus Navas linking up on the right hand side in the last four seasons at Sanchez Pizjuán.
This is a partnership that could be rekindled at Manchester City with Jesus Navas having signed on at Eastlands earlier this summer. Make no mistake however Alvaro Negredo is not at all over reliant on his physical skills to beat defenders, he is also very quick footed for a man of his stature with the Sevilla supporters having seen countless instances of clever footwork and technical ability over the past four seasons with one volley against Espanyol struck from the edge of the penalty area and nestling in the top corner of Carlos Kameni’s net particularly resonating in the memory.
A number of Manchester City supporters have expressed their unease via social media websites, at their club spending such a lofty amount on a twenty seven year old striker who they believe to be remarkably similar to Edin Dzeko however this is simply something they need not worry about. Alvaro Negredo, whilst similar to Dzeko in size and ability when it comes to holding the ball up, is completely different to Dzeko in terms of movement when off the ball. Negredo is far more pro-active than Dzeko with the Spaniard willing to work hard and press when his team isn’t in possession of the ball and when other members of his team have the ball Negredo is always looking to make a movement that will increase his chances of getting in a position to score. Dzeko on the other hand whilst you can’t fault his work ethic on most occasions, struggles with the pace of the Premier League and is not given the same time to hold a position and wait for the ball to be played into him that he was afforded in the Bundesliga.
A Negredo/Dzeko partnership could well prove to be fruitful for Manchester City with the hard work of Negredo no doubt complementing the technical ability and positioning of Dzeko however the vast amount of attacking midfielders Manchester City now have in their squad it doesn’t seem likely that Negredo and Dzeko would have too many opportunities to play together should the Spaniard sign with Manchester City.
It must also be said that the immediate future of Edin Dzeko is still undecided with German media believing that Dzeko’s preferred destination is Borussia Dortmund and he will only make the move to Signal Iduna Park should Robert Lewandowski leave the club which at this moment looks unlikely with Dortmund unwilling to negotiate the sale of their star striker with fierce rivals Bayern Munich.
Earlier I mentioned the vast number of attacking midfield players Manchester City have at their disposal with David Silva, Samir Nasri and even Sergio Aguero having the ability to play in the ‘false nine’ position just behind the central striker. What is very interesting is that Alvaro Negredo thrives in the lone forward position, Negredo loves to come deep into the opponent’s half of the pitch in search of the ball and is very capable in bringing midfielders into play once he has the ball. Often during the past four seasons, we have seen Sevilla win the ball in their own half through Didier Zokora or Hedwiges Maduro and then play it towards Negredo who will be positioned either on or just ahead of the half way line, Negredo would then take a maximum of three touches before working the ball to either Jesus Navas or Diego Capel who would have made a run in behind him or down their respective flank.
Negredo forms good partnerships with smaller, technically gifted players and the idea of bringing him to the club and allowing him to forge such a partnership with David Silva and Samir Nasri must be very appealing to Txiki Begiristain. With Manuel Pellegrini preferring a 4-2-2-2 system during his time with Malaga, utilising two holding midfield players, two attacking midfield players and then two attackers it isn’t difficult to see how Negredo could fit into that system. David Silva and Samir Nasri could be deployed as the two attacking midfielders with Jesus Navas as an alternative. Yaya Toure and Fernandinho would sit just behind them as the two very mobile holding midfielders which could make Manchester City a really hard team to play against when they are not in possession of the ball.
The movement of Toure and Fernandinho in terms of pressing opposition could be absolutely vital to City’s title challenge. The two attackers would then be Sergio Aguero and Alvaro Negredo with the Argentine just dropping off ever so slightly leaving Negredo very centralised and able to link up with Navas, Silva or Nasri depending on the individuals on the pitch at that time. With Negredo in tow within this system, Manchester City’s fluid attacking play would keep its liquid movement so much more so than if Edin Dzeko was deployed as the central striker.
With the deal for Negredo still in the pipeline and not quite yet complete it is worth noting that a lot can change in the current climate of the transfer market but the current signs all point towards Alvaro Negredo being a Manchester City player before too long and in my mind it would be a really astute if expensive signing and would cover the loss felt by the departure of Carlos Tevez far more than any potential loss should Edin Dzeko leave the club this summer.
swifty said:Decent write up of what Negredo could bring..
Negredo is coming off the back of the most successful campaign of his entire career in terms of goalscoring with the Sevilla forward netting an impressive twenty five goals in La Liga during the 2012-2013 campaign which totalled up to thirty one when his six strikes in the Copa del Rey were taken into account. Negredo standing at six feet and one inch is nicknamed ‘La fiera de Vallecas’ which is translated to ‘The beast of Vallecas’ with the Spanish forward being renowned for using his physical attributes to power past a defender to create a goalscoring opportunity for himself. Negredo would be able to adapt to the physical nature of the Premier League with little effort, he can hold up the ball and bring midfielders into attacking moves as we saw so often with Negredo and Jesus Navas linking up on the right hand side in the last four seasons at Sanchez Pizjuán.
This is a partnership that could be rekindled at Manchester City with Jesus Navas having signed on at Eastlands earlier this summer. Make no mistake however Alvaro Negredo is not at all over reliant on his physical skills to beat defenders, he is also very quick footed for a man of his stature with the Sevilla supporters having seen countless instances of clever footwork and technical ability over the past four seasons with one volley against Espanyol struck from the edge of the penalty area and nestling in the top corner of Carlos Kameni’s net particularly resonating in the memory.
A number of Manchester City supporters have expressed their unease via social media websites, at their club spending such a lofty amount on a twenty seven year old striker who they believe to be remarkably similar to Edin Dzeko however this is simply something they need not worry about. Alvaro Negredo, whilst similar to Dzeko in size and ability when it comes to holding the ball up, is completely different to Dzeko in terms of movement when off the ball. Negredo is far more pro-active than Dzeko with the Spaniard willing to work hard and press when his team isn’t in possession of the ball and when other members of his team have the ball Negredo is always looking to make a movement that will increase his chances of getting in a position to score. Dzeko on the other hand whilst you can’t fault his work ethic on most occasions, struggles with the pace of the Premier League and is not given the same time to hold a position and wait for the ball to be played into him that he was afforded in the Bundesliga.
A Negredo/Dzeko partnership could well prove to be fruitful for Manchester City with the hard work of Negredo no doubt complementing the technical ability and positioning of Dzeko however the vast amount of attacking midfielders Manchester City now have in their squad it doesn’t seem likely that Negredo and Dzeko would have too many opportunities to play together should the Spaniard sign with Manchester City.
It must also be said that the immediate future of Edin Dzeko is still undecided with German media believing that Dzeko’s preferred destination is Borussia Dortmund and he will only make the move to Signal Iduna Park should Robert Lewandowski leave the club which at this moment looks unlikely with Dortmund unwilling to negotiate the sale of their star striker with fierce rivals Bayern Munich.
Earlier I mentioned the vast number of attacking midfield players Manchester City have at their disposal with David Silva, Samir Nasri and even Sergio Aguero having the ability to play in the ‘false nine’ position just behind the central striker. What is very interesting is that Alvaro Negredo thrives in the lone forward position, Negredo loves to come deep into the opponent’s half of the pitch in search of the ball and is very capable in bringing midfielders into play once he has the ball. Often during the past four seasons, we have seen Sevilla win the ball in their own half through Didier Zokora or Hedwiges Maduro and then play it towards Negredo who will be positioned either on or just ahead of the half way line, Negredo would then take a maximum of three touches before working the ball to either Jesus Navas or Diego Capel who would have made a run in behind him or down their respective flank.
Negredo forms good partnerships with smaller, technically gifted players and the idea of bringing him to the club and allowing him to forge such a partnership with David Silva and Samir Nasri must be very appealing to Txiki Begiristain. With Manuel Pellegrini preferring a 4-2-2-2 system during his time with Malaga, utilising two holding midfield players, two attacking midfield players and then two attackers it isn’t difficult to see how Negredo could fit into that system. David Silva and Samir Nasri could be deployed as the two attacking midfielders with Jesus Navas as an alternative. Yaya Toure and Fernandinho would sit just behind them as the two very mobile holding midfielders which could make Manchester City a really hard team to play against when they are not in possession of the ball.
The movement of Toure and Fernandinho in terms of pressing opposition could be absolutely vital to City’s title challenge. The two attackers would then be Sergio Aguero and Alvaro Negredo with the Argentine just dropping off ever so slightly leaving Negredo very centralised and able to link up with Navas, Silva or Nasri depending on the individuals on the pitch at that time. With Negredo in tow within this system, Manchester City’s fluid attacking play would keep its liquid movement so much more so than if Edin Dzeko was deployed as the central striker.
With the deal for Negredo still in the pipeline and not quite yet complete it is worth noting that a lot can change in the current climate of the transfer market but the current signs all point towards Alvaro Negredo being a Manchester City player before too long and in my mind it would be a really astute if expensive signing and would cover the loss felt by the departure of Carlos Tevez far more than any potential loss should Edin Dzeko leave the club this summer.