Álvaro Negredo Sánchez

[FrancoisToure]

I keep reading this is the man the manager wants so therefore lets get him. Now a few weeks ago when Mancini was sacked and the new holistic approach was being discussed I kept reading that the manager wouldn't be calling the shots anymore on what players we buy. Instead that would be down to Txiki and Sorrano and the coach would just coach.

Which one is it?

Its either the price Tixki paid to get his 1st choice manager...or Tixki approves. Tixki has veto power over any transfer. Its his choice when to use it though. 18 million is a good deal for Negredo it seems. Considering his Manger wants him and he can probably offload Dzeko for more (at no footballing loss), I imagine Tixki approves of this move. Pellegrini is happy, it makes good business sense. In some ways it is holistic.

The real question is: does this mean the end of Dzeko?

 

[Jumanji]

People who are crying about this not being a good enough signing need to pull their heads out from up their arsehole's. We've made some excellent additions to the squad this year. We've got people who are hungry and want to fight for the team. Not only that but they're all proven, consistent performers who don't have any track records for being mental and egotistical. I'm confident this guy is gonna bang at least 25 goals in for us this year. He's lethal, especially considering we've bought his supplier too.
Seriously stop moaning about Cavani....he ain't coming, he's over priced and probably doesn't fit in with the team Pellers is trying to build.
Our new man at the helm has a track record for being a good man manager, im certain he'll get the best out of our lot. Even the season we won the title i don't think the team all pulled in the right direction....As epic as it was we almost lost the title that year, and last year we got beaten by an inferior squad with greater desire.
Negredo will be a hit and if you don't get behind him and the rest of the newbies A) you're tosser who shouldn't be supporting city, B) You're fucking stupid

I don't know enough to even comment on whether this is a good buy or not (though it does seem to be a bargain). I still am concerned about his link (or lack thereof) with Navas.

Navas seems to be a great signing but he lacked assists last year but he created the most chances in la Liga. Why aren't the chances that he creates for Negredo going in.

Keith_Moon noted earlier that most of Negredo's assists came from Rakitic.

A right winger with a great cross and a classic left footed CF should have been magic together, but the weren't.

Is just a one season blip....am I missing something...were they better together in previous seasons. Any la Liga watchers who have thoughts, I would love to hear them.

Good question, although I'm not sure Navas will be a regular starter for City

I agree, his pace and ability to beat a man is on another level as an impact against a worn out team.

He could be a secret weapon and quite frankly we need quality off the bench to change games.

We've seen time an again that Nasri as a sub doesn't make quite the impact that a Navas would.

 

[salfordblue-tony2]

He's not really Tevez's replacement though, is he?

I reckon another AM/wide forward sort of player will come in.

Wasn't Sergio supposed to be Tevez's original replacement a couple of years ago.?

 

[Little Robin]

Why did this thread blow up, what happened today?

 

[thenabster]

No bloody wonder. 60 fucking million!!!!!!!!

The guys a decent player but nowhere near that good. He's been hyped up and everyone's jumped on the Cavani bandwagon when in truth be told he should never ever be getting rated anything like he is at the moment. A couple of good seasons in an attacking free flowing napoli team with good players around him.

Realistically, even in the current market, I would not price Cavani much more than 5-7m more than Negredo. He's certainly not worth anything like 40m more.

There's a huge difference between settling for second best and not being plain fucking stupid. Thankfully Pellegrini seems to have that covered.

Are you high or something? Cavani has had just a couple of good seasons. It's your opinion if you prefer Negredo over Cavani. I won't fault you on that, but to see that Cavani is just ok good is just pure bullshit. 104 goals in 138 games is not ok good, it's world class.

it 53 million quid PLUS TAX, PLUS HIS WAGES... HE IS OVER PRICED over rated and not Worth the Money.. OK thats what i Think,its what the people who run the club Think the man who signs the cheques Thinks plus the coach does not want him.... do you get it now!

Overpriced and overrated is not the same thing. He's overpriced to us because we don't want to pay for him but it doesn't mean he's an overrated player.

 

[Jumanji]

Why did this thread blow up, what happened today?

Looking like a done deal.

 

[decmancity]

I know that, I'm merely pointing out that when Mancini was sacked and everyone was falling over themselves to explain/justify the holistic approach it was said on here that the manager would have far less of a say in our future dealings. Same goes for whenever we're associated to a new signing and everyone starts raving about how fantastic these below grade A players really are. Now they may do brilliant and they may not but I just wish people wouldn't go so far in justifying how talented and what a bargain these players are. If they truly were that good they'd be household names. I don't really care myself these days one way or another I just go along and support the team and keep calling me Prof I like it ;-)

Below grade A players?

Don't get that. They are high quality players. One of the best wingers and best strikers in Spain, and one of the best midfielders anywhere, and more importantly their skills address nearly all the weaknesses we exhibited last season:

1) lack of goals - the biggest problem.
2) lack of width
3) lack of mobility in midfield and pace on the break.

Question is, does he improve our team from last year, is he better than tevez?

It was disappointing to lose tevez, but obviously we need to trim the wage bill so in the end he had to go, not really sure about this guy yet, seems to be a bit like dzecko in style, big strong goal poacher with no pace, i can't really work out how pellers is gonna set the team up yet, think he might do okay on his own up front playing in a similar role to how Fred plays for brazil, don't see him working well with kun tho as I think his attributes are to similar to dzecko who as we saw last season cannot play with kun.

Assuming we do get him we'll have

Aguero, quick, tricky, good movement, iffy finishing
Guidetti, strong target man, unknown quantity
Dzecko, immobile target man with confidence issues
Negredo, strong, target man, looks a good finisher, slow, unproven in the prem

hope that if we do sign this guy dzecko will be on his way, replaced by a quicker more mobile player to balance our strikers.

He isn't better than Tevez, he isn't replacing Tevez I don't think who I would hardly class as a striker for us since he came back off holiday. Been playing a lot deeper, as a CF almost.

Just because he has similar attributes on paper it doesn't mean that he can't play with Aguero. To be fair you could also argue a new manager could coach Dzeko and Aguero into a very potent partnership. Mancini struggled to do this because he also had to shoe horn Balotelli and Tevez into the team to keep some kind of squad harmony!
Txiki is working his way through removing that problem as much as possible, create a squad that is streamlined and "battle ready" for each situation.

I don't think Dzeko will be sold until Lewandowski leaves Dortmund, there doesn't seem to be any other club out there interested.

Four out and out strikers in Aguero, Dzeko, Negredo and Guidetti is fine.
I wonder if Navas is perhaps going to be used as you say as a mobile striker if really necessary.

 

[The-Dogs-Pollocks]

Below grade A players?

Don't get that. They are high quality players. One of the best wingers and best strikers in Spain, and one of the best midfielders anywhere, and more importantly their skills address nearly all the weaknesses we exhibited last season:

1) lack of goals - the biggest problem.
2) lack of width
3) lack of mobility in midfield and pace on the break.

Question is, does he improve our team from last year, is he better than tevez?

It was disappointing to lose tevez, but obviously we need to trim the wage bill so in the end he had to go, not really sure about this guy yet, seems to be a bit like dzecko in style, big strong goal poacher with no pace, i can't really work out how pellers is gonna set the team up yet, think he might do okay on his own up front playing in a similar role to how Fred plays for brazil, don't see him working well with kun tho as I think his attributes are to similar to dzecko who as we saw last season cannot play with kun.

Assuming we do get him we'll have

Aguero, quick, tricky, good movement, iffy finishing
Guidetti, strong target man, unknown quantity
Dzecko, immobile target man with confidence issues
Negredo, strong, target man, looks a good finisher, slow, unproven in the prem

hope that if we do sign this guy dzecko will be on his way, replaced by a quicker more mobile player to balance our strikers.

Tevez played more games than any of our strikers and had the worst return in the League. He'll do well to match the Tevez of old, but I'm confident he's better than the current Tevez who seems to have lost something from his game in the final third.

I don't know how we will combine our strikers. I can see Dzeko going too on the other hand he may get a new lease of life. All our strikers are quality, but last season they didn't gel

Thought tevez started the season well and ended the season well, I agree his form dipped in the middle quite dramatically, don't think dzecko will get a new lease of life unless we set our whole game up to suit him (play with wingers who hit the byline and fire in crosses, like utd) don't think that would suit the rest of the squad tho (silva, aguero, nasri etc)

I would sell him now as we can still get some money back, if he spends another season stagnating over here, his value will just continue to drop, sell now and pick up reasonable fee to reinvest in the squad (ie mobile, pacey forward to stand in for aguero when he gets injured or needs a rest)

 

[Blue Haze]

Why did this thread blow up, what happened today?

Reports from Spanish papers + Atletico's president saying we've blown them out of the water with our 'petrodollars'

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Great player Great signing