Madness if it was the fans, can’t understand why they would.According to the minutes from the first meeting it seems the fans.
Because if they have little or no points it guarantees a ticketMadness if it was the fans, can’t understand why they would.
Yes I get that but aren’t they supposed to be representing every fan ?Because if they have little or no points it guarantees a ticket
I’m not sure how they can do that, without first us all knowing what was going to be discussed so we can make our views known in advance.Yes I get that but aren’t they supposed to be representing every fan ?
The question is how are those young people getting the tickets currently? Some may have the points and I know at least one who will have as he's been going with his father since he was little. But I'd say the majority either get them through the OSC or off people who buy tickets and don't go but get the points. So one thing we're trying to do is stop people buying tickets just for the points so that people further down the list who want to go to away games can do so. As we saw when they introduced ID checks in the CL, the points level for buying a ticket went down significantly. But that still doesn't help younger fans starting out on their own so we felt it was important to do something, however small, to help them, partly because we're trying to cut off a source of tickets that they presumably rely on. We feel, as a group, it's worth trying something like this.I’m not sure how they can do that, without first us all knowing what was going to be discussed so we can make our views known in advance.
I also don’t get the 18-25 year old concerns, where’s the evidence to back up that there’s an issue?
5000 seasoncard holders is less than 1 in 8, and I would say there’s easily that representation at an away game.
I see a fair mix of ages at away games, unless it’s at some godforsaken place on a cold Tuesday night when it does to tend to be the oldstagers, as they have more disposable time as well as income.
The Tommy Cook one is interesting and it's only when you get to hear all sides that you see the problems. First of all I don't think we went in with that idea specifically as there's nothing in our own minutes about it. So I guess it came up in conversation at the meeting itself and the club view, iirc, was that the current situation created uncertainty for fans and for TC. We're talking about one plane, maybe 200 people here but if you look at it from TC's view, they put a plane on and 200 people apply. Then maybe only 75 get tickets so it's not worth doing the trip so everyone loses out. From the fans view, if you book TC then don't get a ticket, you've got to make alternative arrangements often at short notice which works out more expensive. So we realise it's not a perfect solution and we talked about it for a long time but in the end it gives all sides some certainty. Also, if we're reducing the demand for tickets by removing points for aways and potentially ID checks, the people who want to go will more than likely get tickets anyway. In the end we're talking a maximum of maybe 100 people that might get a ticket that they might not have got otherwise. They're happy, the club are happy and TC are happy.Because if they have little or no points it guarantees a ticket
But if its run correctly point holders should NOT be applying for tickets within their branch.And some of those points holders are also in a Supporters Club, so could be 40% each
Or another way of looking at it is that less then half of the tickets go to independent fans.
The problem has been that they've taken 6 weeks to get these minutes out which is pretty poor and we've told them that it's simply unacceptable. So now we've got them to agree an SLA that these will have an 8-calendar day turn-round meaning yesterday's minutes will be public next Friday. That gives us the chance to get feedback before we meet as a committee, without the club, 2 weeks later.I’m not sure how they can do that, without first us all knowing what was going to be discussed so we can make our views known in advance.