10 | Jack Grealish - 2022/23 Performances

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FantasyIreland said:
Yes,a game changer.He won them promotion and then carried on that form into the Prem.....they achieved results they otherwise would not have had he not been on the pitch,as it proved when he was injured.

I watched most of Villa's games,as i knew he was signing for us.

You don't like him,youre on a mission....so we will never agree :-)
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Jack Grealish game changer is something I can never agree with.
 
Grealish often stood out at Villa and City paying 100 mill. does influence opinions. Bit unfair really.

Grealish can’t help City paid 100 mill. He would be the same player if City paid 50. Or at least I like to think so.
Other than that you can only say a player is a bargain or a flop when he actually retires or moves on, and you look back to what he has achieved.
Btw if Grealish plays shite for the remainder yet scores the winning goals in the CL semi final and final as a last minute sub, what’s left of this 100 mill anyways.

The standard within the City squad is simply much higher than at Villa. Teams play differently against us. And there’s the media attention that differs a lot from other top teams by the way. You simply get treated differently in the media and therefore by opposing fans.

I never expect a new player to stand out. Haaland made a blistering start by scoring so many goals. I know, his main job. But he has plenty to work on and that’s a good thing.
Same with Grealish. He’s fitted in well. So far he is just one of many good players in our squad.
 
Keeper! said:
We as fans always look for a target of the opposition, is that not what football is all about?

What's the difference in us taking the piss out of Sancho?

He was signed for well over his true value, is he a very good player? Without a doubt for me, will he like Grealish prove value for money? The jury is very much out on both but only time will be their judge.
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If we are comparing us taking the piss out of Sancho, which I see very little of, and other fans taking the piss out of Grealish, the difference is that Jack played 26 PL games for the league winners. Sancho has not achieved that level in the PL.

I cannot even remember the last time Sancho was mentioned on here, tbh.
 
Keeper! said:
We as fans always look for a target of the opposition, is that not what football is all about?

What's the difference in us taking the piss out of Sancho?

He was signed for well over his true value, is he a very good player? Without a doubt for me, will he like Grealish prove value for money? The jury is very much out on both but only time will be their judge.
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Agree that opposition
Keeper! said:
We as fans always look for a target of the opposition, is that not what football is all about?

What's the difference in us taking the piss out of Sancho?

He was signed for well over his true value, is he a very good player? Without a doubt for me, will he like Grealish prove value for money? The jury is very much out on both but only time will be their judge.
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Agree that opposition fans always have opposing players who are figures of ridicule or even hatred.
Remember, before the 2010's, we hadn't had any real success for decades. Perhaps City, as we weren't that good, didn't have many players who got "stick" from opposing fans. We certainly didn't spend big, so nobody had a price tag on their back.
We were everyone's favourite "underdog", with fans who were seen as a bit odd e.g. with the inflatable banana craze.
The media never targeted City players or managers, that I can remember ?
However, as City have become the most successful team of the last decade, we are now getting the shite that other dominant teams have received.
It is pure jealousy from other clubs, which is understandable.
However, the big change I believe is from the media. There are now far too many media shills who are eager to pour scorn and vitriol on what City are achieving.
Yes, Sancho has not been a success - yet. However, MUFC seem to have a protective wall that does not permit much media criticism for its players or management. Only the owners get flack.
This just shows that the UK media is not impartial and it's support is "bought".
Jack Grealish, because of his £100 million price tag, will get targeted. Also, some City fans think he has not yet met the expectations or performance levels, when he signed.
The big difference is City are now a club that are the media's "sky blue devils".
Unless we pander more to the UK media, we must accept that any slight mishap (e.g. Grealish under-performing) will be a stick to beat the club...
 
eversince 76 said:
Grealish often stood out at Villa and City paying 100 mill. does influence opinions. Bit unfair really.

Grealish can’t help City paid 100 mill. He would be the same player if City paid 50. Or at least I like to think so.
Other than that you can only say a player is a bargain or a flop when he actually retires or moves on, and you look back to what he has achieved.
Btw if Grealish plays shite for the remainder yet scores the winning goals in the CL semi final and final as a last minute sub, what’s left of this 100 mill anyways.

The standard within the City squad is simply much higher than at Villa. Teams play differently against us. And there’s the media attention that differs a lot from other top teams by the way. You simply get treated differently in the media and therefore by opposing fans.

I never expect a new player to stand out. Haaland made a blistering start by scoring so many goals. I know, his main job. But he has plenty to work on and that’s a good thing.
Same with Grealish. He’s fitted in well. So far he is just one of many good players in our squad.
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Grealish has also been told to play differently than he did at Villa,he is under instruction not to lose the ball and instead draw the opposition and recycle possession.

The lad we (or some of us....) saw at Villa,is no more.
 
vicblueman said:
Done nothing up to now to justify the fee, we have overpaid .
Now a small fish in a big pond .
Will he make it ? not sure ,up to him to believe in his ability instead of playing safe & average.
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Isn't he already making it? He is a first-team regular for the champions of the world's biggest league. Like every player, he can improve, but I suspect no player in history (to some people) could ever justify such a fee.
 
oldius said:
Isn't he already making it? He is a first-team regular for the champions of the world's biggest league. Like every player, he can improve, but I suspect no player in history (to some people) could ever justify such a fee.
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Not pulling up trees & making headlines with us up to now for me.
Players in the squad should be disappointed that he gets picked before them ,except mahrez lol!
 
vicblueman said:
Not pulling up trees & making headlines with us up to now for me.
Players in the squad should be disappointed that he gets picked before them ,except mahrez lol!
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I disagree. I think there are a few players not performing to their highest ability at the moment: Phil and KDB being just two. The singling out of Jack, by members of our own fanbase, is a little peculiar, IMO.
 
For 100m of someone else's money, the least I think we can expect is a couple of goals and an assist or two per game. Hat tricks preferably. To prove its possible to produce such numbers, I read about this lad once, Roy Race his name was, who had incredible stats, goal after goal after assist. Bet he didnt cost 100 million.
 
oldius said:
I disagree. I think there are a few players not performing to their highest ability at the moment: Phil and KDB being just two. The singling out of Jack, by members of our own fanbase, is a little peculiar, IMO.
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We are all entitled to have different opinions i respect yours .
For me i don't think he will be at city within 12-18mths regardless of him being told to play this way or not .
 
Platt Lane 59 said:
Agree that opposition

Agree that opposition fans always have opposing players who are figures of ridicule or even hatred.
Remember, before the 2010's, we hadn't had any real success for decades. Perhaps City, as we weren't that good, didn't have many players who got "stick" from opposing fans. We certainly didn't spend big, so nobody had a price tag on their back.
We were everyone's favourite "underdog", with fans who were seen as a bit odd e.g. with the inflatable banana craze.
The media never targeted City players or managers, that I can remember ?
However, as City have become the most successful team of the last decade, we are now getting the shite that other dominant teams have received.
It is pure jealousy from other clubs, which is understandable.
However, the big change I believe is from the media. There are now far too many media shills who are eager to pour scorn and vitriol on what City are achieving.
Yes, Sancho has not been a success - yet. However, MUFC seem to have a protective wall that does not permit much media criticism for its players or management. Only the owners get flack.
This just shows that the UK media is not impartial and it's support is "bought".
Jack Grealish, because of his £100 million price tag, will get targeted. Also, some City fans think he has not yet met the expectations or performance levels, when he signed.
The big difference is City are now a club that are the media's "sky blue devils".
Unless we pander more to the UK media, we must accept that any slight mishap (e.g. Grealish under-performing) will be a stick to beat the club...
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We used to be everyone's second favorite team, why?, because we were losers.

Now we are hated because we are serial winners and it's lovely.
 
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