12 points on your licence

No definitely not, we are not talking about 10,20 or even 50 yards ahead, on a clear road you should be aware of what is hapeening up to half a mile ahead in which case you will see him WAY before he can zap you!
 
steeviedblue said:
No definitely not, we are not talking about 10,20 or even 50 yards ahead, on a clear road you should be aware of what is hapeening up to half a mile ahead in which case you will see him WAY before he can zap you!
That's always assuming the sneaky little bastard isn't lurking in some bushes, or behind a bus shelter or in some other secluded place.
 
183sash said:
has anyone got to 12 points on their licence but has still (legally) been able to continue driving - my mate was stopped yesterday on the way to the match , he's a taxi driver and already on 9 points so he's a bit worried - not condoning what he's done but has any one got any advice to help him?


I have 14 on mine, and btw 12 is a ban.
i kept my licence, with the help of a lawyer (very expensive) but he played the hardship card 4kids and a wife etc etc

I got 5pts and 160 fine plus the lawyer bill 550 but i kept my van drivers job
 
I had 9 points once and drove round at the legal speed limit for almost a year. I was the slowest vehicle on the road and spent most of my time dodging aggressive lorry drivers and other twats. Most dangerous time I've been on the road.
 
hello well the guy sash is talking about is me,im the guy with 9 points,and now with the latest 3 points on the a49 from shrewsbury to manchester,place called beeton,a hidden police man behind an hedge got me doing 48mph in a 40mph zone,well ive took the speeding ticket to my nearest police station,they cancelled the ticket put void on it,and they are now sending it to cheshire police,the area i was in at the time,they also didnt take the £60 pounds that i had ready to pay them,they just said wait to hear from cheshire police force,because i will have too many points for them to hand me back my liecence,which they also handed me back and said again wait to hear back from cheshire police.....................any thoughts guys? very greatful to you all
 
couple of things to note matey....

was the copper in clear view....stealth policing is not allowed...it's meant to be a visible deterent

did he have a high-vis vest on

was there a camera warning sign within 100 yds of his camera

was the camera operators activity advertised on the cheshire camera partnership website...again, its meant to be a deterent

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.pepipoo.com/Hidden_speed_traps.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" target="_blank">http://www.pepipoo.com/Hidden_speed_traps.htm</a>
Visibility of Police Officers Who Are Performing Speed Checks
ACPO Traffic Enforcement Guidelines are also not mentioned in the law, but they unambiguously state that traffic officers performing speed checks should do so from a position that's clearly visible to the public - take a look.

"31.2 The operator must be clearly visible to the public and the target vehicle throughout the check."

So, if you see a Traffic Officer hiding behind a bush or working from inside an unmarked transit van, why not stop and ask them if they realise that their conduct is breaching the ACPO guidelines - please don't forget to ask them for their name, number and the contact details of their Chief Constable so that you can write a letter of complaint about the officer's conduct.

To 'Corroborate The Police Officer's Personal Opinion'....
ACPO guidelines also clearly state that the officer should only use speed-measuring equipment to corroborate their prior personal opinion of excess speed - take a look at section 32.5.

"32.5 Operators should bear in mind that the device confirms and corroborates prior personal observations."

This means that the officer is not supposed to point the equipment indiscriminately at all of the passing traffic, in the hope of catching one of the vehicles "speeding". This also explains why a police officer's witness statement normally includes the words "I formed the opinion that the vehicle was exceeding the speed limit".
 
shadygiz said:
couple of things to note matey....

was the copper in clear view....stealth policing is not allowed...it's meant to be a visible deterent

did he have a high-vis vest on

was there a camera warning sign within 100 yds of his camera

was the camera operators activity advertised on the cheshire camera partnership website...again, its meant to be a deterent

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.pepipoo.com/Hidden_speed_traps.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" target="_blank">http://www.pepipoo.com/Hidden_speed_traps.htm</a>
Visibility of Police Officers Who Are Performing Speed Checks
ACPO Traffic Enforcement Guidelines are also not mentioned in the law, but they unambiguously state that traffic officers performing speed checks should do so from a position that's clearly visible to the public - take a look.

"31.2 The operator must be clearly visible to the public and the target vehicle throughout the check."

So, if you see a Traffic Officer hiding behind a bush or working from inside an unmarked transit van, why not stop and ask them if they realise that their conduct is breaching the ACPO guidelines - please don't forget to ask them for their name, number and the contact details of their Chief Constable so that you can write a letter of complaint about the officer's conduct.

To 'Corroborate The Police Officer's Personal Opinion'....
ACPO guidelines also clearly state that the officer should only use speed-measuring equipment to corroborate their prior personal opinion of excess speed - take a look at section 32.5.

"32.5 Operators should bear in mind that the device confirms and corroborates prior personal observations."

This means that the officer is not supposed to point the equipment indiscriminately at all of the passing traffic, in the hope of catching one of the vehicles "speeding". This also explains why a police officer's witness statement normally includes the words "I formed the opinion that the vehicle was exceeding the speed limit".

how's the new motor Shady?
 

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