#16 | Rodri - 2020/21 Performances

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ninjamonkey said:
No surprise he has one of his better games against Burnley. He likes playing against them as much as the Goat did.

I think the new system suits him a lot better, he drops into the defence as he was doing beforehand but now that's what is being asked of him, his mobility issues are less of a concern this way and with cancelo/zinchenko in midfield as well as stones taking up the responsibility of starting attacks and not having everything go through him anymore it negates his glaring weaknesses well.

Long term I want to see him replaced with somebody more mobile but Peps done very well to find a way to make it work with the changes he's made and for now it's working well.
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Thats why some are top managers and others post on the internet
 
ninjamonkey said:
No surprise he has one of his better games against Burnley. He likes playing against them as much as the Goat did.

I think the new system suits him a lot better, he drops into the defence as he was doing beforehand but now that's what is being asked of him, his mobility issues are less of a concern this way and with cancelo/zinchenko in midfield as well as stones taking up the responsibility of starting attacks and not having everything go through him anymore it negates his glaring weaknesses well.

Long term I want to see him replaced with somebody more mobile but Peps done very well to find a way to make it work with the changes he's made and for now it's working well.
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1.2.2021 Pep "“Rodri will be the next holding midfielder here and Fernandinho is an incredible example." So how long term are you looking.
 
oldius said:
In time, everyone will appreciate what he offers. He tops nearly every midfield stat because he continually wins it, in the air and on the ground, and then he gives it with accuracy. His positional sense is immaculate.

As a footnote, we have to learn to give players time to adapt to a new country and a new league. Even someone as skilled as David Silva needed it!
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I agree. So many comments now about his "improvement", like he has suddenly transitioned from a Sunday league player to a PL player in the space of 6 weeks. The whole team has improved as a unit and because we are winning, suddenly he can't be blamed for "holding us back" or worse. Certainly the tweaks to the team that have been made have helped him and other players improved form has allowed him more freedom in attack but Imo this idea that the ugly duckling has turned into a swan is more related to people's failure to, as you say "appreciate what he offers" earlier this season than any dramatic improvement in Rodri's ability.
 
samarasra said:
I agree. So many comments now about his "improvement", like he has suddenly transitioned from a Sunday league player to a PL player in the space of 6 weeks. The whole team has improved as a unit and because we are winning, suddenly he can't be blamed for "holding us back" or worse. Certainly the tweaks to the team that have been made have helped him and other players improved form has allowed him more freedom in attack but Imo this idea that the ugly duckling has turned into a swan is more related to people's failure to, as you say "appreciate what he offers" earlier this season than any dramatic improvement in Rodri's ability.
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He was always on to a bit of a hiding last season. New player, extremely difficult position, in a team that right up until that point was good but all of a sudden got worse for reasons unrelated to him. He was a very, very, easy scapegoat. The team got worse and he was the only major change.

It wasn't easy for him, and he wasn't perfect, but it was always going to look like he was a million times worse than he actually was. But the truth is we could have still had Fernandinho there and all the same problems would have existed. And we got 81 points and did reasonably well overall in other competitions albeit with only Carabao Cup success (which Rodri scored the winning goal in); we weren't that bad last season.

Although fortunately there were enough of us on here who recognised all that and lo and behold, the team turns good and all of a sudden he's a standout. He's definitely improved (as most do in their second seasons) but it's not like he's gone from an ugly duckling into a swan all of a sudden. I'm sure the next time we don't win with him in the team he'll go back to being a problem again...

It's why I feel a tiny bit of sympathy for Thiago at Liverpool, because I see similar parallels. I hope he still fails there though, that's probably the big difference with him and Rodri.
 
oldius said:
In time, everyone will appreciate what he offers. He tops nearly every midfield stat because he continually wins it, in the air and on the ground, and then he gives it with accuracy. His positional sense is immaculate.

As a footnote, we have to learn to give players time to adapt to a new country and a new league. Even someone as skilled as David Silva needed it!
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Tbf...some of us could see his attributes from day one.away at West ham ,5nil win.he was superb.one of the most accomplished top division debuts i have ever seen.all went under the radar tho,media ignored him.......and then i had to read countless folk on here say he was shit.
Beggars belief.
 
ninjamonkey said:
No surprise he has one of his better games against Burnley. He likes playing against them as much as the Goat did.

I think the new system suits him a lot better, he drops into the defence as he was doing beforehand but now that's what is being asked of him, his mobility issues are less of a concern this way and with cancelo/zinchenko in midfield as well as stones taking up the responsibility of starting attacks and not having everything go through him anymore it negates his glaring weaknesses well.

Long term I want to see him replaced with somebody more mobile but Peps done very well to find a way to make it work with the changes he's made and for now it's working well.
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Glaring weaknesses or, as always, a work in progress that is finding its feet?

Opinions and all that but his game has come on leaps and bounds and it’s more than the tactical shift, his distribution is night and day to 12 months ago and his positional awareness better still...

We’ve done this many times and fail to apply context, he’s a young man who is developing nicely, the diamond in the rough, which he was, is beginning to sparkle!
 
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