#16 | Rodri - 2020/21 Performances

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With respect to the bolded above, this may come as a surprise to you: Rodri had the most number of key passes on Saturday.

So do with that fact what you may.
Yes, I’m knocked out by the brilliance of those key passes that brought all our chances from open play.

He’s steady on the ball. My point, and I’ve not touched on his defensive capabilities which aren’t great either, is that in my opinion he doesn’t move the ball quickly enough or through the lines effectively enough to get us moving forward. This is massively hampering our attack. In a team set up like ours it’s key to create 1v1s.

I think Gundogan should be given a go at 6. In the Olympiacos game, which I believe is the only time Rodri hasn’t played 6 this season, he moves the ball so much quicker to our players than Rodri ever could. He recycles it effectively too. We created chance after chance. The problem that happened in that game was like Leeds where Foden and Debruyne got carried away and were then both too far forward and we lost control of the game. Foden should play wide right for the time being but that’s another thing altogether.

The midfield isn’t working in an attacking sense given how few actual chances we’ve created, and defensively he isn’t ideal either besides his aerial ability. We’ll see what transpires and I hope he improves but he’s very average at the minute.
 
Yes, I’m knocked out by the brilliance of those key passes that brought all our chances from open play.

He’s steady on the ball. My point, and I’ve not touched on his defensive capabilities which aren’t great either, is that in my opinion he doesn’t move the ball quickly enough or through the lines effectively enough to get us moving forward. This is massively hampering our attack. In a team set up like ours it’s key to create 1v1s.

I think Gundogan should be given a go at 6. In the Olympiacos game, which I believe is the only time Rodri hasn’t played 6 this season, he moves the ball so much quicker to our players than Rodri ever could. He recycles it effectively too. We created chance after chance. The problem that happened in that game was like Leeds where Foden and Debruyne got carried away and were then both too far forward and we lost control of the game. Foden should play wide right for the time being but that’s another thing altogether.

The midfield isn’t working in an attacking sense given how few actual chances we’ve created, and defensively he isn’t ideal either besides his aerial ability. We’ll see what transpires and I hope he improves but he’s very average at the minute.
I like Gundogan at the 6 as well. I just think Rodri is an underrated passer of the ball.

Also, I think our problem is a team wide malaise rather than some individual fault that can be laid at the feet of any one or 2 players.

There are 2 problems, players not playing up to par individually and collectively and coaching (which shows itself in the cohesion if play) not being up to par both tactically and systemically.

We are slow and sluggish out of the back. Very often our 2 weakest ball players Walker and Dias seem to be the 2 on the ball most often and that doesn't aid creativity.

The slow buildups allow the opposition to get 10 men back in their half and keep things tight. The movement from our players isn't consistently active (other than Jesus and Torres) and even when active, isn't choreographed. It's as if the movement is a surprise to the passer or is often half assed.

Then we have players who have developed a terrible habit of wanting others to move but don't do so themselves (Sterling, Mahrez, Bernado, being the 3 worst of late) I exclude Rodri and Gundogan as they are DMs.

Sterling us especially dissapointing, seeing as constant movement and running at akward angles were his calling card the prior 3 years. Now he mostly relies on ball to feet, cut in and shoot. Which granted, he is good at but can't be your only tool. He only makes runs on obvious plays these days.

Anyway, let me not go on a team tangent on the Rodri thread. In so far as there are a myriad of problems ailing this team, Rodri's speed is very far down the list.
 
I like Gundogan at the 6 as well. I just think Rodri is an underrated passer of the ball.

Anyway, let me not go on a team tangent on the Rodri thread. In so far as there are a myriad of problems ailing this team, Rodri's speed is very far down the list.
You rate Rodri for passing the ball backwards and sideways whilst casually sauntering about the pitch at snail pace?... Are you his agent? : /
 
You rate Rodri for passing the ball backwards and sideways

I think this comment is exactly why he's saying he thinks Rodri's passing is underrated.

The guy definitely has an eye for a pass as can be seen from from his recent international games. Whether he's shown it enough for us so far is another matter but the ability is there.

Also, on the issue of passing sideways and backwards, we're currently being told by various people that Phil and Kev can't play together in the middle because games supposedly become like a basketball match whereby we don't control possession enough for the manager's liking.

I don't agree with that line of thinking but I can definitely see it being something Pep considers and if he's decided that he doesn't want his two 8s to be too direct then you can bet your house that the last thing he wants from his holding midfielder is to be attempting to launch higher risk passes to the forwards with any kind of frequency.
 
He isn't supremely useful when we are getting counter attacked

Which of our players are? Unfortunately,while its his bread and butter,he cant do it alone.

Rodri is really good at winning the ball high up and stopping the counterattack before it happens.

Thats a double edged sword for him because he doesn't get credit for stopping a counter when it works and if he gets passed around (usually due to bad pressing further up the pitch) then he is caught miles too high to stop the counter and that's one of the reasons people think he is slower than he is.

I actually really liked when we played him as the 8 and Gundogan as the last midfielder back, he was great at breaking stuff up in midfield still and Gundogan is more creative from deeper and cuts out passes well.
 
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