1894 Singing Block for West Ham

Kenney_The_Blue said:
Eccles Blue said:
All we could hear were the West Ham fans! Where were all the people from the South Stand it was half empty? Once or twice we heard part of the Zaba song and the Vinnie one but without the West Ham fans it would have been dire. The Poznan was good, but had to be started by the WH supporters!

Also one person near me said they were glad they weren't anywhere near the people waving the flags because they would be restricting the view of the people behind. I know if that huge flag had been restricting my view I would have had something to say, I want to cheer the PLAYERS & be able to see them when they score, not a flag. Sorry but that is how I felt about it.

It's a good job you've got 30 other blocks to chose from then mate, was in 117 myself last night, no issues with the flags at all, if we have a designated area in the future for singers/flags/banners etc then everyone who's in that area will know what to expect.

Thought 1894 did a great job last night, I think what would help is being AWAY from the away fans, maybe a block such as 140/142


Think you've hit the nail on the head there mate I was the lad with the big blue and white flag last night and thankfully had no meither off people moaning last night ! ... I run cm11 and when ever we have tried using the flags before we've always had a complaint but I think people are slowly starting to come round to the idea , I totally appreciate that it isn't for everyone so the best way to go about it would be designate one block where it is well advertised that there will be flags in there so everyone who chooses to sit there knows what to expect and can't complain , I think next time we do this we need the singers and us with the flags together rather than singers at the back and flags St the front ! All together in the middle n people will soon join in
 
I think when the stadium gets expanded you have gotta look at getting 150/200 or so 1894 members or people who want an atmosphere back to all go in the same block together. With flags and inflatables allowed every game

the large flag was great
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
I think when the stadium gets expanded you have gotta look at getting 150/200 or so 1894 members or people who want an atmosphere back to all go in the same block together. With flags and inflatables allowed every game

the large flag was great

Good point, what about relocating to ssl3 when it gets expanded?
 
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Would like to join in but still not sure how singers getting together in one of the loudest blocks of the stadium will improve the atmosphere. 109-111 and 116-119 are already fine in terms of atmosphere. It's in any of the other 50+ blocks where the 1894 group could actually make a difference to the stadium's atmosphere.
 
PrestwichPeteMcfc said:
Would like to join in but still not sure how singers getting together in one of the loudest blocks of the stadium will improve the atmosphere. 109-111 and 116-119 are already fine in terms of atmosphere. It's in any of the other 50+ blocks where the 1894 group could actually make a difference to the stadium's atmosphere.


Spot on
 
Kenney_The_Blue said:
PrestwichPeteMcfc said:
Would like to join in but still not sure how singers getting together in one of the loudest blocks of the stadium will improve the atmosphere. 109-111 and 116-119 are already fine in terms of atmosphere. It's in any of the other 50+ blocks where the 1894 group could actually make a difference to the stadium's atmosphere.


Spot on

i hear you, it might be better to be located in another area of the ground for those matches (ex. near north stand or even second level) to get the all stadium going. south stand became available after w ham returned tickets .. we also need to keep in mind that is gonna be difficult to get in different blocks as standing is not tolerated out of 109/10/11 ans ss. we have to work with what's available each time
 
Didsbury Dave said:
KippaxCitizen said:
Didsbury Dave said:
It was noticeable from the top tier that you lot in the south stand were starting a lot more songs than usual. I assumed it was this idea in action.

But you have to realise that singing in the south stand is effectively a waste of time because the songs won't spread right because of the away fans or left because it's the old mans stand. So good effort to you all, but the overall atmosphere will only ever improve if all the singers are in the same area, or very close. As it stands you have a big group of potential noisy fans just doing their own thing in that area of the ground.
I think the South Stand is also a waste of time because as soon as we ever get any of the bigger clubs in the cup they have to be moved somewhere else.

I've said the South Stand is the wrong place for the vocal area since Portsmouth came in 2003 and it's never changed. It's like an away section of home fans with, as you say, away fans on one side and the old men on the other. It's the worst place on L1 there could be to try and be the voice for the stadium.

Yep. And when you have tiers the sound doesn't travel to the tier above. So you can hear the south stand singing clearly from the north stand end of the ground, but hardly at all from directly above it. And not at all from the other side of the away fans, unless they are deathly quiet. And having a high number of vocal fans in that area of the ground halves the potential decibel level from the other singing area, meaning less of their songs 'catch on'. Around the rest of the stadium are thousands of occasional singers who will join in if those around them do.

It's almost a perfect storm for killing the atmosphere, unless it's an occasion where everyone is really up for it and the sound collects in the middle of the bowl.

I decided to have a night out of the comfort of my padded seat on level 2 last night and I think I was in 119 with the riff raff.

It's funny how people say West Ham fans were loud. I was literally a block away from them and couldn't hear them at all bar the sight of them pretending they had scored or something and jumping up and down like loons. Must be an acoustic issue because I couldn't hear the other singing section in the corner either. Only the people around me in 118/119.

I see the paedo songs are popular in there! Poor old Bobby Charlton....
 
alberto0292 said:
Kenney_The_Blue said:
PrestwichPeteMcfc said:
Would like to join in but still not sure how singers getting together in one of the loudest blocks of the stadium will improve the atmosphere. 109-111 and 116-119 are already fine in terms of atmosphere. It's in any of the other 50+ blocks where the 1894 group could actually make a difference to the stadium's atmosphere.


Spot on

i hear you, it might be better to be located in another area of the ground for those matches (ex. near north stand or even second level) to get the all stadium going. south stand became available after w ham returned tickets .. we also need to keep in mind that is gonna be difficult to get in different blocks as standing is not tolerated out of 109/10/11 ans ss. we have to work with what's available each time

Yeah appreciate it wouldn't be easy to just pick a block, personal preference would be 140/142

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May sound stupid but what about having the whole of ss for the game against rovers, can't see them bringing a lot to the etihad; they'll probably fill a block or two if I'm honest...<br /><br />-- Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:09 pm --<br /><br />
IWasHere said:
May sound stupid but what about having the whole of ss for the game against rovers, can't see them bringing a lot to the etihad; they'll probably fill a block or two if I'm honest... they could sit at ssl2
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
I think when the stadium gets expanded you have gotta look at getting 150/200 or so 1894 members or people who want an atmosphere back to all go in the same block together. With flags and inflatables allowed every game

the large flag was great


But have these guys got those numbers... Am truly shocked to read that there was only around 38 or so, thought this 1894 group was a big thing what with the app etc,
Every one knowers the noise comes from 111 and 118 (ether side of the way fans) always has in my opinion ( Kippax - plat lane when they was in the cadge) ( Kippax - north stand when they got moved in the north) why can't the club just say that these blockes will be standing and singing section, if you want to sit there then don't complain theirs ppl standing or there's a flag in your face, then if there's a couple of fans groups who want to do something structured like these 1894 lads then let them get on with it,.
fans in there 40 like myself will know if you want a sing and jump around you just go and get as close to the away fans as posable and give it all you got, never needed a groups to organise things, -
But who organised the fancy dress day stoke - every one turned up in fancy dress, - blues brothers at palace - loads turned up as blues brothers- bananas - then mass inflatables - did ,ppl just turned up with them, ok some went over the top bringing 8ft swimming pools or was it the supporters clubs who put the word out...
 
we only had 24 hours so they gave us 50 seats. yeah 38 came along but loads others we knew joined in and were in neighbouring rows. it was good where we were

its up to people out there to get involved.
 
wearethesouthstand said:
we only had 24 hours so they gave us 50 seats. yeah 38 came along but loads others we knew joined in and were in neighbouring rows. it was good where we were

its up to people out there to get involved.

Really thought yous had it sorted out from when this got posted on here, did they only give you your block on Tuesday !! Can see how with wham sending there allocation back ..
Hopefully you can get your guys in the same block next season, can inly add to the atmosphere having a dedicated group of singers.
Personly always seen the blocked eather side if the away fans as singing and standing blocks and whilst it's not the chanters end in the Kippax they have done us proud more times then not...
Enjoyed sitting back in the south stand last night with real ppl as now exiled in the family stand and although ther was little singing and standing in level two it just felt a lot difrent , even the lad enjoyed it... Totally different vibe
 
Will post more tomorrow.

I made the effort to move from 111 for the match.

Really glad I did.

It was a nice change and I had a good time.

There were definitely more than 38 there last night.

Those involved kept on singing throughout the whole of the match, it's not often, if ever, I've done that at the Etihad.

This encouraged the other fans in the SS to join in.

All in all I thought it went very well. If more People can be persuaded to relocate and join in, it will only get bigger and better.

Those that weren't sure about relocating for West Ham, please make the effort for Blackburn or a future match.

More tomorrow regarding the SS, the Kippax, our fans, the away fans, the flags, the stadium layout, and the atmosphere in general.
 
blingy said:
wearethesouthstand said:
we only had 24 hours so they gave us 50 seats. yeah 38 came along but loads others we knew joined in and were in neighbouring rows. it was good where we were

its up to people out there to get involved.

Really thought yous had it sorted out from when this got posted on here, did they only give you your block on Tuesday !! Can see how with wham sending there allocation back ..
Hopefully you can get your guys in the same block next season, can inly add to the atmosphere having a dedicated group of singers.
Personly always seen the blocked eather side if the away fans as singing and standing blocks and whilst it's not the chanters end in the Kippax they have done us proud more times then not...
Enjoyed sitting back in the south stand last night with real ppl as now exiled in the family stand and although ther was little singing and standing in level two it just felt a lot difrent , even the lad enjoyed it... Totally different vibe


no it's last minute Charlie stuff mate. we get the all clear from the club but then that's it. go. 109-111 is mostly cup scheme season ticket no gaps for other singers to join in so where do the people originally displaced from 116-118 go. they got sent around the ground then when west ham send their briefs back we get a chance to do something. and that's it. the main issue was the ground was half full. even in south lower. those who were there belted out all the songs and it was bloody brilliant. 111 block are already catered for. we're just giving an option for everyone else
 
It was class last night and as JRB said, hardly/if ever I've done that at the Etihad.

You could see people looking round thinking "who the fuck are these lads at the back?!" Aha non stop singing, just need more and more numbers, people could see what happened last night and how well it worked with 50/60 people, get 60/70 for blackburn at home together in a block and it'll be even better, shame we were right at the back a there was probably 15 flags under there but not many would have been able to see them I assume.

Onwards and upwards, get yourself in the block for blackburn blues.
 
Kenney_The_Blue said:
alberto0292 said:
Kenney_The_Blue said:

i hear you, it might be better to be located in another area of the ground for those matches (ex. near north stand or even second level) to get the all stadium going. south stand became available after w ham returned tickets .. we also need to keep in mind that is gonna be difficult to get in different blocks as standing is not tolerated out of 109/10/11 ans ss. we have to work with what's available each time

Yeah appreciate it wouldn't be easy to just pick a block, personal preference would be 140/142

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Block 140 wasn't very full at all and I think that if the cub gave the group an allocation there before the tickets went on general sale then they'd be plenty of space for singers. With a singing section at both ends of the east stand it would be an opportunity for the noise to spread all along the stand and, importantly, the have some atmosphere at the North end of the ground.

With regards to the standing issue: seems to be very few cup scheme/season ticket holders in that block (a few dozen?) so disruption would be minimal. The club could advise them in advance that there may be standing and they can choose to move if they wish. Thousands of fans are moved in Cup/Euro games to accommodate away fans and sponsors; a few relocacions in aid of a much improved atmosphere shouldn't cause too much of a stir.
 

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