19 | Ilkay Gundogan - 2024/25

And you do know they got forced to be sold and people like Lampard and Porter were in charge after in Kova’s last season, right? With Kova they won UCl and Europa and was always safe in top 4.
The UCL final was against us and I don't think Kovacic did much in the 7 minutes he was on the pitch.
Kovacic is certainly better than Gundogan at the moment but our squad size and injury list is not helping Gundogan.
Its simply not a case of " the older the fiddle, the sweeter the tune" in this instance.
 
The UCL final was against us and I don't think Kovacic did much in the 7 minutes he was on the pitch.
Kovacic is certainly better than Gundogan at the moment but our squad size and injury list is not helping Gundogan.
Its simply not a case of " the older the fiddle, the sweeter the tune" in this instance.
The UCL final was Kova’s first game back from injury he got in the second leg of the quarter final. A bit like KdB’s UCL final, did the hard work but missed the final. He was Chelsea’s player of the year for 19-20 and a crucial player under Tuchel.
 
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The UCL final was Kova’s first game back from injury he got in the second leg of the quarter final. A bit like KdB’s UCL final, did the hard work but missed the final. He was Chelsea’s player of the year for 19-20 and a crucial player under Tuchel
You're the guy that brought up that you were told by everyone here that Kovacic couldn't hold a candle to Gundogan.
He couldn't then but this is now. Time waits for no man.
I don't think either Gundogan or Kovacic are currently good enough if we had a fully fit squad but that's where we are.
It is pointless comparing them as there is a good chance that they will both get a lot of game time together, in Gundogans case a lot more than he thought he'd be getting.
 
You're the guy that brought up that you were told by everyone here that Kovacic couldn't hold a candle to Gundogan.
He couldn't then but this is now. Time waits for no man.
I don't think either Gundogan or Kovacic are currently good enough if we had a fully fit squad but that's where we are.
It is pointless comparing them as there is a good chance that they will both get a lot of game time together, in Gundogans case a lot more than he thought he'd be getting.
I respectfully disagree. Time will tell. Your assessment is that Kova will be benched or sold once the squad get fully fit or some proper midfielders arrive. And my assessment is that Kova will be one of City’s most crucial players 2025 and 2026 no matter what, as he was since 2023.
 
I respectfully disagree. Time will tell. Your assessment is that Kova will be benched or sold once the squad get fully fit or some proper midfielders arrive. And my assessment is that Kova will be one of City’s most crucial players 2025 and 2026 no matter what, as he was since 2023.
As I said, only time will tell.
I doubt Gundogan will be with us next season so Kovacic will get more time on the pitch.
I just envisage us buying more players before next season starts and they will have to be better than Gundogan and Kovacic.
 
I respectfully disagree. Time will tell. Your assessment is that Kova will be benched or sold once the squad get fully fit or some proper midfielders arrive. And my assessment is that Kova will be one of City’s most crucial players 2025 and 2026 no matter what, as he was since 2023.
If we get in the players we want this winter and next summer and Rodri is in good shape, Kovacic will be off to Saudi for one last huge payday.
 
I respectfully disagree. Time will tell. Your assessment is that Kova will be benched or sold once the squad get fully fit or some proper midfielders arrive. And my assessment is that Kova will be one of City’s most crucial players 2025 and 2026 no matter what, as he was since 2023.

Kovacic is an ok squad player but he isn’t the medium or long term answer to our midfield.
 
Last year I was told by almost everyone here that Kova cannot hold a kindle to Gundo. Now that I saw Gundo play and I thought it is not too bad and people are slaying him. Come on, you all know one year without major injury will not change someone’s class dramatically. Gundo was not famous for his legs either. The only real conclusion I can draw with my observation is that Kova is a more useful midfielder than Gundo in current Man City team. Gundo has his advantages but overall he was an opportunist in my limited memory, an assassin. And also as I randomly observed before, he was never rated among Man City fans. Him and Mahrez were the most slayed players among City fans. It was just the treble season and departure at high note that leave fans with pinky memories.
If you are watching gundy for the first time he is nothing like the player he was before he left , he was one of , with kev , the best midfielder in the prem for years , peps first signing in 2017
 

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