2020 US Elections

[SebastianBlue]

Quite the group the Iraq War Cosplayer belongs to based on the patch he is wearing.

Knowing those sort in Georgia, they may have genuinely just misspelt ‘mortars’, which would be much more fitting.

Then again, with the sort of gun safety on show, perhaps they are a secret Gun Control Advocacy cell...

 

[Dax777]

So Bill Barr has broken the tradition of impartiality from the DoJ and he both clearly supports Trump and is actively looking for voter fraud himself. He is the man who is in part tasked with defending this process against fraudulent claims of voter fraud.

And in addition a partisan politician offering $1m as a reward for voter fraud.

What could possibly go wrong?


I guess the specific question is do you think that across 2 or more states, voter fraud in the scale of say 100k illegal votes (enough to change the outcome) actually happened. You either believe this or you dont, and if you don't it's congratulations President Biden.

On the contrary, what I (or you for that matter) believe is not particularly relevant. What's is evidentially factual and provable is!

Again, I'd refer back to that original post which also answers this question:

I have seen no evidence of fraud or irregularities from anyone that warrants overturning the election.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Something like 250m voters in the us , phone ahead lol

I’d like to make a reservation to vote for 2:30 tomorrow if you have a slot please.

Certainly sir do you want Republican or non-Republican section.

Non-Republican.

Ok. Let me check what I have here.
Hmmm we’re fully booked I’m afraid. The earliest we could fit you in is November 4th.

No that will be too late.

Sorry sir it’s a very popular polling station. None like it for miles around.

No I’ll make other arrangements thanks.

No problem sir. You have a nice day.

 

[M18CTID]

Perhaps you are right... And Trump is simply playing a fraud card.

But here is a hypothetical, suppose there was in fact documented evidence of fraud and irregularities that were big enough to alter elections,

What would you suggest as the right course of action for the losing official who had made prior to the elections made claims that he'd challenge the results if he lost?

But this is the point - there isn't any evidence of voter fraud no matter how many times Trump claims there is. If there was and it was widespread enough to be the difference between winning and losing then that's an entirely different matter but I suspect that when everything finally comes to light it's more likely that Trump's side were the bigger cheats.

 

[domalino]

I've not followed Biden's career closely enough to know that but if that's the case then fair enough. I was offering up a possible explanation for any problems he may have with his speech from time to time and it was aimed at the dickheads who take the piss out of him.

Yeah fair enough, but it's just a stutter. He's had it since he was a kid and spoken about it a lot since becoming VP.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Perhaps you are right... And Trump is simply playing a fraud card.

But here is a hypothetical, suppose there was in fact documented evidence of fraud and irregularities that were big enough to alter elections,

What would you suggest as the right course of action for the losing official who had made prior to the elections made claims that he'd challenge the results if he lost?

If there was evidence of fraud (which you are blatantly desperate for)

then it's absolutely right that the election is put on hold until this is resolved

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

But this is the point - there isn't any evidence of voter fraud no matter how many times Trump claims there is. If there was and it was widespread enough to be the difference between winning and losing then that's an entirely different matter but I suspect that when everything finally comes to light it's more likely that Trump's side were the bigger cheats.

"Officer, I just saw the ghost of Jim Morrison and Lightning McQueen from the 'Cars' movie break into my house. And they stole $3,000 in cash I had sitting there."

"Oh my god! We'll get a crack investigative squad down here immediately. And we'll put an all points bulletin out for their arrest."

"Thank you. Also, if you don't find them, could you have your detectives bring me $3,000 anyway?"

 

[Dax777]

But this is the point - there isn't any evidence of voter fraud no matter how many times Trump claims there is. If there was and it was widespread enough to be the difference between winning and losing then that's an entirely different matter but I suspect that when everything finally comes to light it's more likely that Trump's side were the bigger cheats.

Exactly! The focus should be on what the evidence does or doesn't say. Not whether he had projected that he was going bro do something, then did it.

It's irrelevant that Trump projected he was going to challenge. What's relevant is whether there is or isn't result altering fraud.

By the way examining the evidence to make sure future attempts at cheating ( be that by Biden or the Bigger cheating Trump) are thwarted is a good idea.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Perhaps you are right... And Trump is simply playing a fraud card.

But here is a hypothetical, suppose there was in fact documented evidence of fraud and irregularities that were big enough to alter elections,

What would you suggest as the right course of action for the losing official who had made prior to the elections made claims that he'd challenge the results if he lost?

I’d hypothetically expect them to present that documented evidence as part of any law suit they intended pursuing. Unless they were just hypothetically time wasting.

 

[kaz7]

Fortunately there's 32 years of evidence to prove the Aneurisms had no effect.

Depends on how much bleeding there was , were they fixed ?

Long term affects from the bleeding can happen, it damages the brain, i know all about brain damage as i have some

Cerebral Aneurysms

A cerebral aneurysm (also known as a brain aneurysm) is a weak or thin spot on an artery in the brain that balloons or bulges out and fills with blood. The bulging aneurysm can put pressure on the nerves or brain tissue. It may also burst or rupture, spilling blood into the surrounding tissue...

www.ninds.nih.gov

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Exactly! The focus should be on what the evidence does or doesn't say. Not whether he had projected that he was going bro do something, then did it.

It's irrelevant that Trump projected he was going to challenge. What's relevant is whether there is or isn't result altering fraud.

By the way examining the evidence to make sure future attempts at cheating ( be that by Biden or the Bigger cheating Trump) are thwarted is a good idea.

The issue here is that these things are incredibly tightly controlled. They have all the lists of voters and all the paper ballots or computer files of votes cast. Any illegality can quickly be investigated. Trump would like you to believe its amateur hour and anyone can turn up with a box full of ballots and hand them over to get counted.

Its actually very well run and any fraud could be quickly investigated. You have to have evidence and when you do it can be checked - quickly.

You then take that to a court and and if you have enough evidence of illegality in significant scale the court can and will step in. But if you have zero credible evidence then you get nowhere. Which is why Trump has lost every case he has taken to court so far re this election. If he had something then fine - but he is not making claims because they are valid he is trying to undermine the system and that is undemocratic.

 

[M18CTID]

Exactly! The focus should be on what the evidence does or doesn't say. Not whether he had projected that he was going bro do something, then did it.

It's irrelevant that Trump projected he was going to challenge. What's relevant is whether there is or isn't result altering fraud.

By the way examining the evidence to make sure future attempts at cheating ( be that by Biden or the Bigger cheating Trump) are thwarted is a good idea.

And so far there has been no evidence to suggest that, so I'm not sure what your point is?

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Exactly! The focus should be on what the evidence does or doesn't say. Not whether he had projected that he was going bro do something, then did it.

It's irrelevant that Trump projected he was going to challenge. What's relevant is whether there is or isn't result altering fraud.

By the way examining the evidence to make sure future attempts at cheating ( be that by Biden or the Bigger cheating Trump) are thwarted is a good idea.

Unless of course this all just a delay tactic. No evidence whatsoever is no draw back for Trump and his team. When has he ever shown evidence for any of his lies.
it’s his classic MO. If anyone goes to the bother anymore of fact checking him, they are already two or three lies behind.

He repeated the narrative enough times. He just keeps it going. Repeat repeat repeat.
If one example is disproven something else will hit the headlines. He’s assured that nobody can believe the news anymore because it’s impossible to keep up with what’s fake or not.

So he basically never has to prove anything.

The real focus should be on how far can he actually get and where exactly is democracy being subverted.

 

[Dax777]

If there was evidence of fraud (which you are blatantly desperate for)

then it's absolutely right that the election is put on hold until this is resolved

Lol. No, I'm not desperate for anything. My point was simple one. It's the evidence that matters. Not the characters.

I suppose that lesson wasn't necessary as you clearly get it.

 

[mat]

Amazing. Dems are so shit at voter fraud. They couldn't fix the house or senate races at the same time...

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Quite the group the Iraq War Cosplayer belongs to based on the patch he is wearing.

Knowing those sort in Georgia, they may have genuinely just misspelt ‘mortars’, which would be much more fitting.

Then again, with the sort of gun safety on show, perhaps they are a secret Gun Control Advocacy cell...

Can't tell if the safety catch in engaged on her AR, but the dust cover is certainly open, which suggests it may be cocked, and it's definitely loaded as it has a magazine fitted. At least they both have their fingers off the trigger but the guy on the right is stood in front of the muzzle of her weapon, which is a huge safety fail.

 

[Dax777]

And so far there has been no evidence to suggest that, so I'm not sure what your point is?

That's coz you misread the original post. The point was to focus on the evidence not characters.

There either is or isn't evidence, the characters don't matter.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Can't tell if the safety catch in engaged on her AR, but the dust cover is certainly open, which suggests it may be cocked, and it's definitely loaded as it has a magazine fitted. At least they both have their fingers off the trigger but the guy on the right is stood in front of the muzzle of her weapon, which is a huge safety fail.

Quite a few issues on display that speak to why they may be called ‘Georgia Martyrs’.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Quite a few issues on display that speak to why they may be called ‘Georgia Martyrs’.

Catholic religious group I though?

 

[SebastianBlue]

Catholic religious group I though?

I thought they were a sect of anti-Russian warrior monks?