2020 US Elections

[kaz7]

Welcome back seb x

 

[kaz7]

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Donald Trump's son Eric addresses crowds

He tells his father's supporters: "My father has started a movement and this movement will never, ever die.

"This is a movement that will transcend him. It's a movement that will transcend all of us."

He asks them: "Is there any person here that actually thinks that Joe Biden won this election?"

Boos are heard, then Mr Trump replies: "I don't either guys, I don't either

 

[SWP's back]

Haha. Popcorn at the ready

 

[andyhinch]

Trump is a simpleton fascist that wants to end democracy and be installed as dictator so he can continue to embezzle, blackmail, and bribe (and be blackmailed and bribed) on a global scale, whilst avoiding the consequences of his decades of (sometimes truly horrific) criminality. He doesn’t want election and inauguration, he wants continual coronation and deification. He doesn’t care about anything or anyone beyond what it or they can do to serve his interests and whims (emphasis on the latter). Any role is a means to power and domination over his enemies, which is nearly everyone in the world in his addled little mind (including his family at times). All he knows is the mafia life; and once more he is laughably bad at it. He’s an incompetent man child that has been saved time-and-time-again by luck and the interventions of various actors that saw him as a useful idiot (at least for a time). He is Castro with a come over (and even less intelligence).

Biden, while by no means perfect, has surrounded himself with a diverse team of people that by-and-large want to reform government to make it more democratic, representative, and equitable. They want to make substantive improvements to help lift up the disadvantaged and disenfranchised (both black and white, whether they support the Biden-Harris admin or not). They want to effectively respond to and fully mitigate the pandemic, saving lives and stabilising the economy. They want to enact aggressive climate change response policy to save millions more. They want to strengthen environmental protections (which the outgoing regime have mostly destroyed). They want to combat worsening wealth inequality and labour exploitation. They want to improve education at every level and make it accessible to anyone seeking it. They want to keep the US out of wars (and reduce the justifiable hatred many other countries feel toward the US due to past atrocities). Will they be successful in doing all of this? Probably not. But they *want* to do it.

Anyone that does not “understand” the inherent differences between Trump and Biden — that one wants the world to burn if he can’t have it and the other wants to put out the fires already burning if he can — is either woefully incompetent, wilfully ignorant, or wildly dishonest (with themselves and/or others).

Again, Biden is not perfect. But, as one of our great (but also flawed) leaders once said: “perfection is the enemy of progress”.

He gives the US a chance at progressing to a better state. The opposite is true of Trump. And waiting for the “perfect” candidate to come along — especially given you could ask a million people “who would be the perfect candidate” and you would get a million different answers — is a recipe for catastrophe at this juncture in history.

This was the best that could be done right now. And his admin will hopefully lay a foundation for more substantive, positive change in 4 years.

Onward and upward (as opposed to crash and burn).

/fin

Not seen you post for a while, hope you’re well mate.

 

[DrBlueBob]

Welcome back seb x

Seconded Kaz.

 

[JASR]

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Donald Trump's son Eric addresses crowds

He tells his father's supporters: "My father has started a movement and this movement will never, ever die.

"This is a movement that will transcend him. It's a movement that will transcend all of us."

He asks them: "Is there any person here that actually thinks that Joe Biden won this election?"

Boos are heard, then Mr Trump replies: "I don't either guys, I don't either

Breaking: Eric Trump supports LFC, says 'Their principles and beliefs align with ours bigly perfectly'

 

[yankblue]

US politics is intriguing. So divisive and it results in 50% of the population either cheering or crying. The sad reality is that whoever gets power won't change a thing. Homelessness will still be rampant, poor communities (black and white) will remain poor, school shootings will still occur, political corruption etc etc. Crazy that people on both sides of politics are willing to trash their own cities and stab their neighbours over politicians who don't give a shit about them.

why would you say something so true yet so hurtful

 

[I'm With Stupid]

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Donald Trump's son Eric addresses crowds

He tells his father's supporters: "My father has started a movement and this movement will never, ever die.

"This is a movement that will transcend him. It's a movement that will transcend all of us."

He asks them: "Is there any person here that actually thinks that Joe Biden won this election?"

Boos are heard, then Mr Trump replies: "I don't either guys, I don't either

Stir up enough discontent that any trial will be a risk to national security seems to be the tactic they're going for now.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Haha. Popcorn at the ready

Bit late me thinks.

Today is both Peak Trump (in terms of bat shit crazy rabble rousing) and also the start of a very long and difficult period for the GOP. Trump has destroyed their credibility. He has transformed them into a cult - but going forward if Trump is not on the ticket the crazies won't care about the party. So what becomes of the party post Trump? Do they try to rebuild credibility (can they) or do they just become the cult of Trump?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I predict a riot.

 

[kaz7]

Don is speaking to the crowd in a bit

I predict he will say we won the election lol

 

[I'm With Stupid]

I predict a riot.

I mean that's not really a prediction, it's already happened several times.

 

[kaz7]

One of the georgia officials just said trump is pissing people off , no apology like we do here , thought they were more uptight than that

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I predict a riot.

What is funny is the blue lives matter folks who are really anti rioting might just attack the police and/or go for some aimless rioting and looting that will end up with police confrontation.

And unlike the BLM demonstrations many of them will be armed.

 

[RandomJ]

Bunch of mentalist's.

 

[SWP's back]

Haha. Popcorn at the ready

And so it begins

 

[mat]

If I was part of the "fake news media" I would be calling up the other networks and saying let's call the Georgia senate race when the orange **** is speaking to his crowd of alien probed rednecks as a fuck you.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

I read your post, replied to your points and you responded with nothing constructive...again. I think we’ll leave it at that. I’m happy to discuss again in 4 years and we’ll see if people are still ridin’ Bidens cock then...assuming anyone with a different opinion than that of the mainstream is still allowed to post.

Ok let's have a look at some of the differences (feel free to point out any errors):

Action	Trump	Biden
Political Leaning	Is a wannabe dictator and actual authoritarian	Believes that counting the votes is how a democracy works.
Healthcare	Wants to repeal ACA - take medicare from 10-20m people, take away coverage for pre-existing conditions	Does not want to repeal ACA, wants to ensure all pre-existing conditions covered - pave the way for M4A
Environment	Does not believe in climate change, states "The Science doesn't know". Pulled the US out of Paris climate accord	Does believe in climate change. Will allow policy to be shaped by science. Will re-join Paris climate treaty immediately.
Environment	Gave drilling licenses for Alaska, absolutely dismantled the Environmental Protection Agency - installed ex Oil Man to run it	Will again allow science to dictate policy. Pledged billions to invest annually in Green Technology to make the US a world leader in it.
Covid-19	"Fake news, Democrat Hoax" - more testing is the only reason he believes they have more cases, worst 1st world reaction to CV-19, highest death rate. Politicised wearing a fucking mask. Suggested injecting disinfectant and/or UV light.	Is actually sane, wats to allow policy to be dictated by science, lock down hot spots, nationwide mask mandate
Islam	Wants to ban Muslims entering the country (apart from those that actually produce jihadists as they buy missiles and fighter planes from the US)	Wants to repeal the "Muslim Ban"
Tax & Income	Proposes tax cut to stimulate economic growth - this despite his previous tax cuts for the top earners increasing the deficit to the highest level on record.	Support raising the national minimum wage and raise marginal tax rates to the highest income earners
Race & Diversity	Has the whitest administration since the 50's. Stokes racial tension - "many fine people on both sides"	Promises diversity as seen in appointing the current running mate and transition team. Wants an administration representative of the country it governs
Economic impact of Covid and how to get over it.	Propose signing legislation to flush out trillion dollars into the economy in one-time aid to boost local government, individuals, and businesses	Propose spending trillions to create new jobs in manufacturing, clean energy, and caregiving

And all of that is without even getting into the things with regards to corruption, extortion, impeachment, tax fraud, 25 different women who claim they were assaulted or raped (inc. a then 13 year old), his close association with Epstein, his defence of Maxwell, his insurance fraud, a half-dozen close associates and advisers being arrested, found guilty and then pardoned by Trump if they didn't turn on him, oh yeah and his attempted fucking coup.

But, yeah, they are all the fucking same. No one is riding Biden's dick, they are just glad the above **** is on his way out.

(can't believe I've just wasted ten minutes on that in replying).

Well, that`s just saved me sometime responding to FTF.

Thanks SWP

 

[Didsbury Dave]

What is funny is the blue lives matter folks who are really anti rioting might just attack the police and/or go for some aimless rioting and looting that will end up with police confrontation.

And unlike the BLM demonstrations many of them will be armed.

Yep. As soon as I heard about this "protest" I expected the worst. I think things could turn very nasty with these people on the streets.

There will be blood.

 

[mat]

Georgia state officials have called it for Ossoff without saying it by saying neither candidate leading will need a recount.