2022 World Cup Discussion

[Barcon]

Of course, on the day I get up at 6am and don't have to go to work there is no early game and two at 10am followed by two at 2pm.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

…you do understand what abnormal means in statistical terminology, right?

It is used to describe something outside of a normal reference range.

I think you are trying to find some seedy motive where none exists. They were describing the current state, not making a determination as to why or what the following outcome would be.

You miss my point entirely. I simply want to know what the sigma is. This is completely lacking in the post. Without which, there's no reason to suspect that the results are unexpected at all. And if the results aren't unexpected, why did the Twitter poster even bother to mention them?

For whatever reason, you've now developed the idea that I don't understand statistics. Do you understand statistics?

 

[SebastianBlue]

You miss my point entirely. I simply want to know what the sigma is. This is completely lacking in the post. Without which, there's no reason to suspect that the results are unexpected at all. And if the results aren't unexpected, why did the Twitter poster even bother to mention them?

For whatever reason, you've now developed the idea that I don't understand statistics. Do you understand statistics?

I am a (now retired) economist and data scientist.

And I haven't missed your point, I am saying that you are misinterpreting the post to mean something it does not. Descriptive analysis is different to prescriptive analysis.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

I am a (now retired) economist and data scientist.

And I haven't missed your point, I am saying that you are misinterpreting the post to mean something it does not. Descriptive analysis is different to prescriptive analysis.

And you've missed my point.

Sensational posts cite data that seem to imply something that's not conclusively true.

The post you quoted is akin to something along the lines of this (a made up hypothetical scenario but completely analogous to the current situation) :

"Recent results in physics indicate the existence of a new, heretofore undiscovered, particle. Based on numerous particle collisions, scientists at the LHC have noticed that it's more likely than not that a new elementary particle has been discovered."

Which is pretty much just bullshit reporting without backing relevant statistical details. If you want to label the Twitter post you cited as descriptive - well, OK. I'd label it as sensational - until such time as backing analysis proves that it's particularly unusual.

 

[SebastianBlue]

And you've missed my point. Sensational posts cite data that seem to imply something that's not conclusively true. This post may or may not be a case in point - who knows, because the sigma is unknown. The post you quoted is akin to something along the lines of this: "Recent results in physics indicate the existence of a new, heretofore undiscovered, particle. Based on numerous particle collisions, scientists at the LHC have noticed that it's more likely than not that a new elementary particle has been discovered." Which is pretty much just bullshit reporting without backing relevant statistical details. If you want to label the bullshit above as descriptive - well, OK. I'd label it as sensational.

Ok.

 

[Stephen230]

You’d think during the final group games the TV stations would have a split screen option on one of their channels. Most people have massive teles these days so it would be a good option.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

You’d think during the final group games the TV stations would have a split screen option on one of their channels. Most people have massive teles these days so it would be a good option.

Yes... but many home TV setups include picture in picture - independent of broadcast.

Anyhow, I'd like to have the ability to view each broadcast in isolation - free of knowledge about what's transpiring in the other match.

 

[Stephen230]

Yes... but many home TV setups include picture in picture - independent of broadcast.

Anyhow, I'd like to have the ability to view each broadcast in isolation - free of knowledge about what's transpiring in the other match.

I’ve no idea what that means but BT Sports did it years ago with the Champions League and the NFL do it every week on Redzone, so it’s clearly not a problem.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

I’ve no idea what that means but BT Sports did it years ago with the Champions League and the NFL do it every week on Redzone, so it’s clearly not a problem.

Agreed - it's not a technical problem.

However, if the broadcast you are watching flashes graphics showing the score in the other game and meanwhile the commentators frequently announce the other game score, it's nearly impossible to watch one game without knowing what's going on in the other game. And this is likely to be the case watching the USA Fox broadcasts.

 

[Stephen230]

Agreed - it's not a technical problem.

However, if the broadcast you are watching flashes graphics showing the score in the other game and meanwhile the commentators frequently announce the other game score, it's nearly impossible to watch one game without knowing what's going on in the other game. And this is likely to be the case watching the USA Fox broadcasts.

Well that would be pointless anyway, as the players will know the score in the other game and will react accordingly.