2022 World Cup Discussion

[hammocity]

The players will be running out onto a scorching, furnace of a pitch trying to give it 100% (well, not Kane(pen) obviously) and I'm genuinely fearing the worst for most of them.

Biggest mistake in world football having it out there.

Yep, about 30°, not ideal for football, a bit warmer than Spain at the beginning of their season. 7 games in 28 days for the teams that reach the semi finals will take its toll on those players, most likely will include some of our players.

 

[hammocity]

I agree. As another poster has stated, in 1967 homosexuality was decriminalised in England. It took until 1981 in Scotland and 1982 in Northern Ireland. You've been able to legally apply to change your gender since 2005. Same-sex marriage was allowed from 2014 and not until 2020 in Northern Ireland. We're talking about a country who still bases its laws on scripture which are sacred to Muslims. They haven't reached the stage western churches have, whereby they're willing to accept change beyond the scripture. Places which still place the church at the heart of its community remain opposed to homosexuality - see the US in particular. We can't force change upon them, when it remains an issue a lot closer to home (there are still issues in the UK in terms of abuse and a lack of equality).

The world is full of hypocrisy. Russia and Brazil score worse for their records on human rights yet it isn't mentioned. The issues in the US will not be mentioned when we play the tournament there. Just like it's never mentioned with the US owners of English football teams. We're dead against the Qatari world cup yet everyone seems to be happy to take the money and go, they're just doing it to highlight the issues apparently. Pull the other one! What about the deals we do with the Saudis? We can criticise them for owning Newcastle but we won't mention the arms deal we have with them to go and bomb Yemen.

Sick of hearing about it. Just get on and bloody play the tournament and focus on the football. We've got plenty of issues at home we could do with sorting before we start telling everyone how to think and act. Slave labour/workers rights - it's unacceptable but we've got fucking statues of people who had slaves. We used to love it!

We also trade arms with Qatar, it’s not just about homosexuality, more to do with the lack of free speech and questioning anything that’s wrong with Qatar.

Also, An English Businessman Marc Bennet worked for Qatar airlines promoting the country’s tourism for the World Cup. He resigned to join a Saudi based company. He returned to Qatar to settle some outstanding issues and was arrested, tortured for 3 weeks then eventually found hanged in a hotel on Christmas Day. This despite him laughing and joking with his wife just a few hours before he was found dead, a UK coroner judged suicide was not on Marc’s agenda, he had the misfortune to deal with a very dangerous regime.

 

[bluemoon32]

That Wales squad looks very lightweight.

It is, we'll have serious problems when Bale, Ramsey & Allen retire.
Just our luck that we've finally qualified for a World Cup & it'll be the shittiest ever.

 

[The perfect fumble]

We also trade arms with Qatar, it’s not just about homosexuality, more to do with the lack of free speech and questioning anything that’s wrong with Qatar.

Also, An English Businessman Marc Bennet worked for Qatar airlines promoting the country’s tourism for the World Cup. He resigned to join a Saudi based company. He returned to Qatar to settle some outstanding issues and was arrested, tortured for 3 weeks then eventually found hanged in a hotel on Christmas Day. This despite him laughing and joking with his wife just a few hours before he was found dead, a UK coroner judged suicide was not on Marc’s agenda, he had the misfortune to deal with a very dangerous regime.

Very dangerous regime?

1978: World Cup In Buenos Aires Argentina On May 01, 1978.​

2018: World Cup Russia.

And of course facist Italy in 1934....

 

[hammocity]

Very dangerous regime?

1978: World Cup In Buenos Aires Argentina On May 01, 1978.​

2018: World Cup Russia.

And of course fascist Italy in 1934....

The point I was making was it’s not just about homosexuality. Go back far enough and there’s plenty of dangerous regimes including ours.

The Argentine Junta collapsed after the Falklands war, Viola jailed and his successor Galtieri got away with further crimes (died whilst being investigated) and living an ignominious life on a small pension.

Mussolini and his cronies executed by firing squad just 2 days before Hitler died.

These dictators get the outcome they deserve.

Wonder what will happen to Mr 2018 World Cup man?

 

[tommy116]

England could be home early, Southgate 5 man defence and championship tac-tics long ball free kicks and corners,
I don't see all the hype and having a very good chance under Southgate, unless we stink the place out and get lucky again, England/Southgate we be heading home with the tails between their legs,

Iran, first game England will need a good start, and it's always hard finding your feet in the first game
USA, will be a nightmare game and I can guarantee they will be right at us and run and run, NO push overs
Wales, will be a very tight game as always, Bale will be the key and if he turns up fit and hungry then they could easily beat us.

England will need 4 points going into the Wales game, then maybe could sort of do a handshake and play out a draw, but lose one and draw the other in the couple of games before Wales then we could be out in the groups ?

England will easily beat Iran and Wales.

 

[Ghostofmerlin]

And the US

 

[ancoats]

England will easily beat Iran and Wales.

Iran being the first game will be a hard game with finding your feet in the tournament, plus in new stadiums with new grass that's not bedded in and never been tested you just never know, Wales will be like a derby game and anything can happen, like I said if bale is 100% fit he is still a danger,

USA will be the game for me, they will be super fit and run and run, they have some very good players, so you never know just how much England are overhyped, they struggled for the last 6 months in games with a back 5,

we all know what it will be with Southgate, England main threat will be corners and free kicks and hitting it long to Kane ? The last world cup, I think we only scored 1 goal from open play, so I don't think much will change in this one

 

[Protein Junkie]

It is, we'll have serious problems when Bale, Ramsey & Allen retire.
Just our luck that we've finally qualified for a World Cup & it'll be the shittiest ever.

Matthew Smith ex City is in the Wales squad.Midfield looks very lightweight but hope Brennan Johnson gets a look in.

 

[lust overlord]

Iran being the first game will be a hard game with finding your feet in the tournament, plus in new stadiums with new grass that's not bedded in and never been tested you just never know, Wales will be like a derby game and anything can happen, like I said if bale is 100% fit he is still a danger,

USA will be the game for me, they will be super fit and run and run, they have some very good players, so you never know just how much England are overhyped, they struggled for the last 6 months in games with a back 5,

we all know what it will be with Southgate, England main threat will be corners and free kicks and hitting it long to Kane ? The last world cup, I think we only scored 1 goal from open play, so I don't think much will change in this one

Fully expecting England to get through the group by playing our boring predictable shite,before getting k.o'd by the first decent side we come up against, because we will stick to the predictable shite.

I'd like to be proven wrong,we will soon find out.