#21 | Ferran Torres - 2020/21 Performances

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Wow so much negativity here. I felt there's was enough in his game even today to see that he'll be great coming seasons.
Is it negativity? Or is it simply an honest assessment of his performance? I don't see any negativity. Seems if you're not gushing with praise constantly you're labelled as negative and wanting the guy out of the club.

He was shit today, totally ineffective going forward and didn't even at least nullify their threat from that side. He looked lost far beyond what any other first team signing under Pep has done when he first came in, he improved and did admirably if not great in an unfamiliar position when given a chance then since injuries has eased, hasn't had much of a look in but when he has, he's been anonymous. None of that is negative just an overview of his season.
 
Is it negativity? Or is it simply an honest assessment of his performance? I don't see any negativity. Seems if you're not gushing with praise constantly you're labelled as negative and wanting the guy out of the club.

He was shit today, totally ineffective going forward and didn't even at least nullify their threat from that side. He looked lost far beyond what any other first team signing under Pep has done when he first came in, he improved and did admirably if not great in an unfamiliar position when given a chance then since injuries has eased, hasn't had much of a look in but when he has, he's been anonymous. None of that is negative just an overview of his season.
I don't think he's looked more lost than Bernardo, Sane, Cancelo in their first seasons. Just my opinion.
I also don't have any issues with people calling him shit if they think so.
But when someone says let's sell him after a handful of appearances in his preferred position, I don't know what's that if not negativity.
 
Is it negativity? Or is it simply an honest assessment of his performance? I don't see any negativity. Seems if you're not gushing with praise constantly you're labelled as negative and wanting the guy out of the club.

He was shit today, totally ineffective going forward and didn't even at least nullify their threat from that side. He looked lost far beyond what any other first team signing under Pep has done when he first came in, he improved and did admirably if not great in an unfamiliar position when given a chance then since injuries has eased, hasn't had much of a look in but when he has, he's been anonymous. None of that is negative just an overview of his season.
There is a difference between making an honest assessment of his performance on this game, and people then extrapolating that he isn't good enough for us based on this game.

I rarely see the people simply talking about the performance about one game get hate, its when they look at one game and then say "I don't see it, not good enough for us", we can agree that surely these are poor takes?
 
Everybody was calling Cancelo a waste of space and £60m last season (I was certainly guilty of this at times too).

He now has a shout at being the best performing fullback in the world at the moment.

Give players time, particularly one that's only 20 years old and doesn't have the luxury of consistent game time amongst a squad jam packed full of talent.

It takes a while for players to get used to the setup here. Even then, it was only a few months ago everyone was lauding Torres as the bargain of the season.
 
Give him time, he’ll tear Premier League defences apart.

He’s in a difficult position I think, like a few of our signings under Pep. They come in with a good reputation at their last club where they were firing in goals, assists, dribbles, and generally having a freedom to play their natural game.

They show a spark of that when they first join us. Then they have to learn our system. Positioning, when to press, simple passes. No freedom to play their natural game, so the spark fades a bit

Happened with quite a few, and it took them different amounts of time to get there but they are nearly all there (Cancelo, Rodri, Leroy, Bernardo etc). Still happening with Jesus I think? He’s not yet showing the brilliance from his time in Brazil, but he’ll get there and so will Ferran
 
I don't think playing him in a front line with a rusty Sergio and Mahrez (who did well but is not a presser like Jesus or Bernado) backed by a KdB finding his way back to fitness did him any favours.

I think everyone wants him to succeed but his performance was very pedestrian. The way in which reserve team football has been replaced by the EDS league has not done any favours for players like Ferran (and Aguero). In older times both could have played for the reserves to regain fitness. In theory they could play for the EDS but it would never happen.
 
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