2nd Test Match

[alib]

I'd disagree about Freddie's bowling being back to his best - I still don't think he's 100% fit and his pace is down on what it was back in 2005

Sadly I don't think he'll ever be the player he was again

 

[bronco]

freddies still there - wonder in any south africans have put a bet on england (ala dennis lillie ) ?

 

[Mills-Mcfc]

I'd disagree about Freddie's bowling being back to his best - I still don't think he's 100% fit and his pace is down on what it was back in 2005

Sadly I don't think he'll ever be the player he was again

you dont think hes back to his best?
well off 40 overs is have an econ rate of 1.9 not good enough for you?
also in his first test match back?

i beg to differ

 

[alib]

how many wickets did he get though in those 40 overs?

taking wickets is what Test Cricket is all about

 

[Gelsons Dad]

how many wickets did he get though in those 40 overs?

taking wickets is what Test Cricket is all about

yep.

Freddy has pace and can contain but he doesn't get many wickets. Botham had a golden arm, he could bowl crap and take wickets. Sadly freddie has not . He bats like a number 8 these days too so he needs to take a lot more wickets to justify selection. (or be an unknown Aussie)
I would drop KP for a game or two now. He needs a reality check. When your number 8 plays a perfectly paced innings having watched the big shots get themselves out you have to wonder what the management( Captain) is doing?

 

[Mills-Mcfc]

how many wickets did he get though in those 40 overs?

taking wickets is what Test Cricket is all about

so he did shit then?
lmao he had the best econ rate out of all the bowlers
im sure i heard bumble say he was the pick of the bowlers, but hey, your the expert?

 

[Matty]

how many wickets did he get though in those 40 overs?

taking wickets is what Test Cricket is all about

yep.

Freddy has pace and can contain but he doesn't get many wickets. Botham had a golden arm, he could bowl crap and take wickets. Sadly freddie has not . He bats like a number 8 these days too so he needs to take a lot more wickets to justify selection. (or be an unknown Aussie)
I would drop KP for a game or two now. He needs a reality check. When your number 8 plays a perfectly paced innings having watched the big shots get themselves out you have to wonder what the management( Captain) is doing?

Shouldn't drop Pietersen, shouldn't even be a consideration. Yes he threw his wicket away, but he's still our best batsman by far. He needs to rein it in a touch but that's about it. Broad played yet another good innings, he needs to take more wickets though. However I'd suggest playing him higher up the order might be a possibility, I'd rather have him coming in ahead of Ambrose at the moment.

 

[blueandy1mac]

how many wickets did he get though in those 40 overs?

taking wickets is what Test Cricket is all about

yep.

Freddy has pace and can contain but he doesn't get many wickets. Botham had a golden arm, he could bowl crap and take wickets. Sadly freddie has not . He bats like a number 8 these days too so he needs to take a lot more wickets to justify selection. (or be an unknown Aussie)
I would drop KP for a game or two now. He needs a reality check. When your number 8 plays a perfectly paced innings having watched the big shots get themselves out you have to wonder what the management( Captain) is doing?

Shouldn't drop Pietersen, shouldn't even be a consideration. Yes he threw his wicket away, but he's still our best batsman by far. He needs to rein it in a touch but that's about it. Broad played yet another good innings, he needs to take more wickets though. However I'd suggest playing him higher up the order might be a possibility, I'd rather have him coming in ahead of Ambrose at the moment.

Unfortunately there are several players, including the captain, who need to be having a close look at their own performances. I'm afraid Pietersen has the view that its his wicket and he'll do what he wants with it, throwing it away yesterday is another example of Big Time Charlie doing what he likes. You would have thought the SA's would have had to prise him off the crease with a crowbar. Nothing will be said cos we're f....d without his runs.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

how many wickets did he get though in those 40 overs?

taking wickets is what Test Cricket is all about

yep.

Freddy has pace and can contain but he doesn't get many wickets. Botham had a golden arm, he could bowl crap and take wickets. Sadly freddie has not . He bats like a number 8 these days too so he needs to take a lot more wickets to justify selection. (or be an unknown Aussie)
I would drop KP for a game or two now. He needs a reality check. When your number 8 plays a perfectly paced innings having watched the big shots get themselves out you have to wonder what the management( Captain) is doing?

Shouldn't drop Pietersen, shouldn't even be a consideration. Yes he threw his wicket away, but he's still our best batsman by far. He needs to rein it in a touch but that's about it. Broad played yet another good innings, he needs to take more wickets though. However I'd suggest playing him higher up the order might be a possibility, I'd rather have him coming in ahead of Ambrose at the moment.

Unfortunately there are several players, including the captain, who need to be having a close look at their own performances. I'm afraid Pietersen has the view that its his wicket and he'll do what he wants with it, throwing it away yesterday is another example of Big Time Charlie doing what he likes. You would have thought the SA's would have had to prise him off the crease with a crowbar. Nothing will be said cos we're f....d without his runs.

Concur
KP is NOT our best bat. He is our most gifted but he could have played for the team and saved a test yesterday. Instead he played for himself and played a part in loosing a test.
Our best bat is Cook by a long way. He plays the match not the bowler.

 

[AntonDonJuan]

I think Bell is our best batsman tbh