6 February, 1958.

Bigger that football, hate the rags with a vengeance but at the end of the day its a game. R.I.P to all the people who died that day.
 
R.I.P to the forgotten

Staff: Walter Crickmer (secretary); Bert Whalley (coach); Tom Curry (coach).

Journalists: Alf Clarke (Manchester Evening Chronicle); Don Davies (Manchester Guardian); George Follows (Daily Herald); Tom Jackson (Manchester Evening News); Archie Ledbrooke (Daily Mirror); Henry Rose (Daily Express); Eric Thompson (Daily Mail); Frank Swift (News of the World).

Other: Kenneth Rayment (co-pilot); Bela Miklos (travel agent); Willie Satinoff (fan); Tom Cable (steward).
 
The pilot took the blame, those who insisted the plane had to return were the culprits. It took years for the pilot's union to clear his name, but no blame was attached to others. As cover-ups go it was a total success for the real villains . Various theories were aired, including the reluctance to pay the cost of hotel accommodation, the FA's antipathy to the European competition, but as always the "boardroom" is above the law and the truth never came out Hillsborough has taken 30 years and still no-one at the top has faced justice. Despite the weight of evidence that the non-action of the FA was mostly to blame for the tragedy by ignoring previous problems , we are still stuck with an institution that has been unfit for purpose for generations.
Someone at OT took the decision to duck and dive when meeting their obligations to the families of the victims, but the finger was never pointed. When it reached the top i.e. the board room the silence was deafening. The lack of accountability in this country has been a curse for centuries and shows no sign of changing .
 
Tanzeylee said:
R.I.P to the forgotten

Staff: Walter Crickmer (secretary); Bert Whalley (coach); Tom Curry (coach).

Journalists: Alf Clarke (Manchester Evening Chronicle); Don Davies (Manchester Guardian); George Follows (Daily Herald); Tom Jackson (Manchester Evening News); Archie Ledbrooke (Daily Mirror); Henry Rose (Daily Express); Eric Thompson (Daily Mail); Frank Swift (News of the World).

Other: Kenneth Rayment (co-pilot); Bela Miklos (travel agent); Willie Satinoff (fan); Tom Cable (steward).
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Today with football nearly every day, papers falling over themselves to sign up any ex player that can almost put two words and a random thought together, it's easy to forget the talents of football journalists back in the 1950s. The Sunday papers were the most important to the football fan as they were the first nationals printed after the games and the News of the World, back then and before Murdoch's crew ruined it was one of the biggest. For Frank Swift and other ex players to be taken on by the nationals after they retired from the game was a real achievement. R.I.P. Frank
 
bellbuzzer said:
The pilot took the blame, those who insisted the plane had to return were the culprits. It took years for the pilot's union to clear his name, but no blame was attached to others. As cover-ups go it was a total success for the real villains . Various theories were aired, including the reluctance to pay the cost of hotel accommodation, the FA's antipathy to the European competition, but as always the "boardroom" is above the law and the truth never came out Hillsborough has taken 30 years and still no-one at the top has faced justice. Despite the weight of evidence that the non-action of the FA was mostly to blame for the tragedy by ignoring previous problems , we are still stuck with an institution that has been unfit for purpose for generations.
Someone at OT took the decision to duck and dive when meeting their obligations to the families of the victims, but the finger was never pointed. When it reached the top i.e. the board room the silence was deafening. The lack of accountability in this country has been a curse for centuries and shows no sign of changing .
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Whilst some pressure/concerns over late return from the European match were present the real culprit was the limited understanding of the effects and amount of ice on aircraft performance combined with relatively (to today) inadequate de-icing chemicals. The final responsibility for allowing an aircraft to take off rests with the pilot and the airport authorities.
 
My dad (a united fan! I know!) knew the Edwards family based in Shropshire and had connections in Dudley also. Me and my dad went to the Duncan Edwards tribute they have in Dudley Archives the other week, nice little exhibition and really a waste of a life and a brilliant player. My dad went to Old Trafford around the early 50’s and he still remembers and gets emotional over Duncan, the sheer size of the man but he could do everything, the complete footballer, he describes him as. Funny my dad hasn’t been back to Old Trafford since the early 70’s for loads of different reasons but the two main memories of his is Duncan Edwards and a little white picket fence that went around the pitch. I’m sure Duncan would be proud that people would remember him as the footballer he was and that the Busby Babes will never die.
 
I feel cheated that we didn't see a lot more of Duncan Edwards a truly amazing player. My mum got his autograph before they flew off from Manchester. We will remember them. Thoughts to the families.x
 
There is a small service taking place in Munich today at Manchester Square. Lived here years and never realised such a place existed , named in honour. RIP.
 
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