9/11 Conspiracy?

[zeusbheld]

Who knows?

who knows whether i will sprout pixie wings and fly away?

nobody knows. but i think it possible to have a pretty good guess...

People have opinions, are you so against that?

you can have opinions and i can't? that's hardly fair.

 

[zeusbheld]

There was a programme on telly a few months or so back following a demolition team bringing down a hotel in Las Vegas. The amount of time, effort, explosives and stripping out that had to be done to get it to fall was amazing. I do not believe for one minute that the twin towers were brought down by explosives...the amount of activity required to do this would not have gone unnoticed.

ut! RobinJo will never believe you.

 

[ShaunMCFC]

Who knows?

who knows whether i will sprout pixie wings and fly away?

nobody knows. but i think it possible to have a pretty good guess...

People have opinions, are you so against that?

you can have opinions and i can't? that's hardly fair.

I'm respecting what you're saying, yet you won't let anyone else have an opinion

 

[Richie]

Please excuse this post if it has been mentioned earlier, but I only got to page 7 before I lost the will to carry on with all the "quote/re-quote" posts!

I believe that the acts carried on that day were the work of terrorists, but what I find interesting is the story around the plane that crashed into the field in Pensylvania (?).

There seems to be a lot of evidence of govt "interference" but would a govt ever admit "Yes, we shot down one of our own commercial airliners"? I can understand why they did it, but would most people accept it as a justifyable action?

Perhaps it is just a hunch of mine, but all the press reports afterwards of passengers bringing the plane down with all the supposed "let's roll" acts of heroism is a more palatable story to the rest of the USA, rather than the alleged shooting down by a USAF fighters missile?

Just doesn't sit right with me

That's all

 

[bluespana]

Please excuse this post if it has been mentioned earlier, but I only got to page 7 before I lost the will to carry on with all the "quote/re-quote" posts!

I believe that the acts carried on that day were the work of terrorists, but what I find interesting is the story around the plane that crashed into the field in Pensylvania (?).

There seems to be a lot of evidence of govt "interference" but would a govt ever admit "Yes, we shot down one of our own commercial airliners"? I can understand why they did it, but would most people accept it as a justifyable action?

Perhaps it is just a hunch of mine, but all the press reports afterwards of passengers bringing the plane down with all the supposed "let's roll" acts of heroism is a more palatable story to the rest of the USA, rather than the alleged shooting down by a USAF fighters missile?

Just doesn't sit right with me

That's all

Did you actually see photos of the crash site? This isn't like a car chase where you shoot out the tires and the plane slows down. It would have exploded in midair scattering pieces for many miles if it were 'shotdown'.

 

[zeusbheld]

People have opinions, are you so against that?

you can have opinions and i can't? that's hardly fair.

I'm respecting what you're saying, yet you won't let anyone else have an opinion

seems to me i must really suck at not letting anyone else have an opinion.

as far as i can tell, they are still having them.

 

[ShaunMCFC]

People have opinions, are you so against that?

you can have opinions and i can't? that's hardly fair.

I'm respecting what you're saying, yet you won't let anyone else have an opinion

seems to me i must really suck at not letting anyone else have an opinion.

as far as i can tell, they are still having them.

This is my last post to you as you are contempt on causing an argument and being a twat.

 

[Anonymous]

Please excuse this post if it has been mentioned earlier, but I only got to page 7 before I lost the will to carry on with all the "quote/re-quote" posts!

I believe that the acts carried on that day were the work of terrorists, but what I find interesting is the story around the plane that crashed into the field in Pensylvania (?).

There seems to be a lot of evidence of govt "interference" but would a govt ever admit "Yes, we shot down one of our own commercial airliners"? I can understand why they did it, but would most people accept it as a justifyable action?

Perhaps it is just a hunch of mine, but all the press reports afterwards of passengers bringing the plane down with all the supposed "let's roll" acts of heroism is a more palatable story to the rest of the USA, rather than the alleged shooting down by a USAF fighters missile?

Just doesn't sit right with me

That's all

Your argument fails on one (rather major) point in that there is no evidence of government interference whatsoever!

 

[Greiver]

I've not been to involved in the whole situation as sad as it was. It is a tragedy and sadly I would not put it past being a conspiracy. We have one hell of a corrupt government and thats a fact! I don't know all the facts but this I know; the world is fucked up and governments are corrupt! What happened was a terrible incident and the best thing future generations can do is choose the least corrupt leader for the country. I don't like or trust the government. I don't like politics either nor politicians or the news and media. Mostly because life is fucked up and I don't need to see all that negativity all the time.

 

[Rammy Blue]

There was a programme on telly a few months or so back following a demolition team bringing down a hotel in Las Vegas. The amount of time, effort, explosives and stripping out that had to be done to get it to fall was amazing. I do not believe for one minute that the twin towers were brought down by explosives...the amount of activity required to do this would not have gone unnoticed.

absolutely it was a staged explosion, there have been may structural engineeres that have said the buildings would not collapse that way.

don't give a fuck if people call me a moron but i understand that we are "fed" by the media, Bush's brother (or brother in law...can't remember exactly) was head of the CIA when 9/11 happened and there was a "sweep" by the CIA 2 weeks prior to the planes hitting the twin towers, how convenient.....these buildings were constructed on the basis they could withstand a hit by a plane - levellled just like a casino in vegas.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Please excuse this post if it has been mentioned earlier, but I only got to page 7 before I lost the will to carry on with all the "quote/re-quote" posts!

I believe that the acts carried on that day were the work of terrorists, but what I find interesting is the story around the plane that crashed into the field in Pensylvania (?).

There seems to be a lot of evidence of govt "interference" but would a govt ever admit "Yes, we shot down one of our own commercial airliners"? I can understand why they did it, but would most people accept it as a justifyable action?

Perhaps it is just a hunch of mine, but all the press reports afterwards of passengers bringing the plane down with all the supposed "let's roll" acts of heroism is a more palatable story to the rest of the USA, rather than the alleged shooting down by a USAF fighters missile?

Just doesn't sit right with me

That's all

Did you actually see photos of the crash site? This isn't like a car chase where you shoot out the tires and the plane slows down. It would have exploded in midair scattering pieces for many miles if it were 'shotdown'.

Not so. The warhead in an air-to-air missile would be inadequate to destroy a commercial airliner. At best they could only inflict enough damage to the wings or engines to bring the plane down.

 

[Uwe Rosler's Grandad]

There was a programme on telly a few months or so back following a demolition team bringing down a hotel in Las Vegas. The amount of time, effort, explosives and stripping out that had to be done to get it to fall was amazing. I do not believe for one minute that the twin towers were brought down by explosives...the amount of activity required to do this would not have gone unnoticed.

absolutely it was a staged explosion, there have been may structural engineeres that have said the buildings would not collapse that way.

don't give a fuck if people call me a moron but i understand that we are "fed" by the media, Bush's brother (or brother in law...can't remember exactly) was head of the CIA when 9/11 happened and there was a "sweep" by the CIA 2 weeks prior to the planes hitting the twin towers, how convenient.....these buildings were constructed on the basis they could withstand a hit by a plane - levellled just like a casino in vegas.

But what I'm saying is that if it was as staged explosion, the sheer amount of effort and man hours required to do it would have been spotted. To bring down an old hotel took months of prepatory work, stripping out the building to the bare bones, getting access to the support structure, putting the correct amount of explosives in exactly the right places, drilling into the supports with huge drills etc etc...now if that did happen at the twin towers which were much bigger and stronger than a Las Vegas hotel...how on earth was this work not spotted?

 

[Rammy Blue]

There was a programme on telly a few months or so back following a demolition team bringing down a hotel in Las Vegas. The amount of time, effort, explosives and stripping out that had to be done to get it to fall was amazing. I do not believe for one minute that the twin towers were brought down by explosives...the amount of activity required to do this would not have gone unnoticed.

absolutely it was a staged explosion, there have been may structural engineeres that have said the buildings would not collapse that way.

don't give a fuck if people call me a moron but i understand that we are "fed" by the media, Bush's brother (or brother in law...can't remember exactly) was head of the CIA when 9/11 happened and there was a "sweep" by the CIA 2 weeks prior to the planes hitting the twin towers, how convenient.....these buildings were constructed on the basis they could withstand a hit by a plane - levellled just like a casino in vegas.

But what I'm saying is that if it was as staged explosion, the sheer amount of effort and man hours required to do it would have been spotted. To bring down an old hotel took months of prepatory work, stripping out the building to the bare bones, getting access to the support structure, putting the correct amount of explosives in exactly the right places, drilling into the supports with huge drills etc etc...now if that did happen at the twin towers which were much bigger and stronger than a Las Vegas hotel...how on earth was this work not spotted?

i understand your point but mine is rather that as this particular work would not have been looked for then it could quite easily have happened, these towers will have all sorts of underground tunnels etc. - in my mind there is absolutely no way that the towers woudl have dropped so symmetrically as to not damage anything else around them, i watched the vegas hotel dropping and it dropped perfectly so as not to cause any damage to anything else around it exactly like the twin towers.

a plane that hit near the top of the tower would no way have caused the towers to drop like that.

unfortunately the vast majority of people believe everything the "media" tells them and take it as gospel, i however don't and realise we are told what "they" want us to believe in the majority of cases.

 

[Uwe Rosler's Grandad]

There was a programme on telly a few months or so back following a demolition team bringing down a hotel in Las Vegas. The amount of time, effort, explosives and stripping out that had to be done to get it to fall was amazing. I do not believe for one minute that the twin towers were brought down by explosives...the amount of activity required to do this would not have gone unnoticed.

absolutely it was a staged explosion, there have been may structural engineeres that have said the buildings would not collapse that way.

don't give a fuck if people call me a moron but i understand that we are "fed" by the media, Bush's brother (or brother in law...can't remember exactly) was head of the CIA when 9/11 happened and there was a "sweep" by the CIA 2 weeks prior to the planes hitting the twin towers, how convenient.....these buildings were constructed on the basis they could withstand a hit by a plane - levellled just like a casino in vegas.

But what I'm saying is that if it was as staged explosion, the sheer amount of effort and man hours required to do it would have been spotted. To bring down an old hotel took months of prepatory work, stripping out the building to the bare bones, getting access to the support structure, putting the correct amount of explosives in exactly the right places, drilling into the supports with huge drills etc etc...now if that did happen at the twin towers which were much bigger and stronger than a Las Vegas hotel...how on earth was this work not spotted?

i understand your point but mine is rather that as this particular work would not have been looked for then it could quite easily have happened, these towers will have all sorts of underground tunnels etc. - in my mind there is absolutely no way that the towers woudl have dropped so symmetrically as to not damage anything else around them, i watched the vegas hotel dropping and it dropped perfectly so as not to cause any damage to anything else around it exactly like the twin towers.

a plane that hit near the top of the tower would no way have caused the towers to drop like that.

unfortunately the vast majority of people believe everything the "media" tells them and take it as gospel, i however don't and realise we are told what "they" want us to believe in the majority of cases.

I see your point and being a Bill Hicks affecionado I don't believe everything the "media" tells me!

 

[MCFCinUSA]

Just been watching it at college, and find it all very intriguing.

I really don't get why the Americans would do this, someone explain :-)

Or your views on whether you believe it was a conspiracy or not. But it all seems very strange.

I can't believe people are so dim-witted that they swallow any of this, but they do - proof is this posting and whomever follows it.

Guess some people never grew out of the tooth fairy or Father Christmas...

(For those who will argue the toss with the above, forget about it: You cannot win an argument with an idiot. They just drag the conversation down to their level and beat you with experience)

 

[ShaunMCFC]

Just been watching it at college, and find it all very intriguing.

I really don't get why the Americans would do this, someone explain :-)

Or your views on whether you believe it was a conspiracy or not. But it all seems very strange.

I can't believe people are so dim-witted that they swallow any of this, but they do - proof is this posting and whomever follows it.

Guess some people never grew out of the tooth fairy or Father Christmas...

(For those who will argue the toss with the above, forget about it: You cannot win an argument with an idiot. They just drag the conversation down to their level and beat you with experience)

Thats edited as it said something that my lecturer had said. Try reading the thread before you try to criticise you bellend.

 

[cbeebies is poo]

for father christmas etc people dont grow out of it. i think the problem alot of you want to cling on to that. i mean that you want to live in your shelterd life. beleive that the peopple have our best intrest at hart? im sorry im a beliver in people that they are on the hole good. these people who are at the top and i dont mean your gov. the real people the bankers who control the money etc just create us all in to slaves. the biggest thing they have in their advantage is that we all dont stand together. we are all divided. through religion, culture, race etc they would be screwd if we all stood as one. said we dont want to go to war for you. we dont need oil.there is eltric cars we could us. these people use us as slaves and we just carry on. "im a good lad me" "yes sir, no sir" we need unity not division.

 

[Anonymous]

for father christmas etc people dont grow out of it. i think the problem alot of you want to cling on to that. i mean that you want to live in your shelterd life. beleive that the peopple have our best intrest at hart? im sorry im a beliver in people that they are on the hole good. these people who are at the top and i dont mean your gov. the real people the bankers who control the money etc just create us all in to slaves. the biggest thing they have in their advantage is that we all dont stand together. we are all divided. through religion, culture, race etc they would be screwd if we all stood as one. said we dont want to go to war for you. we dont need oil.there is eltric cars we could us. these people use us as slaves and we just carry on. "im a good lad me" "yes sir, no sir" we need unity not division.

And spelling lessons.

 

[cbeebies is poo]

for father christmas etc people dont grow out of it. i think the problem alot of you want to cling on to that. i mean that you want to live in your shelterd life. beleive that the peopple have our best intrest at hart? im sorry im a beliver in people that they are on the hole good. these people who are at the top and i dont mean your gov. the real people the bankers who control the money etc just create us all in to slaves. the biggest thing they have in their advantage is that we all dont stand together. we are all divided. through religion, culture, race etc they would be screwd if we all stood as one. said we dont want to go to war for you. we dont need oil.there is eltric cars we could us. these people use us as slaves and we just carry on. "im a good lad me" "yes sir, no sir" we need unity not division.

And spelling lessons.

sorry cheesy im not the best and i no taht btu i hvae mi faltus klike nay man?

 

[Uwe Rosler's Grandad]

for father christmas etc people dont grow out of it. i think the problem alot of you want to cling on to that. i mean that you want to live in your shelterd life. beleive that the peopple have our best intrest at hart? im sorry im a beliver in people that they are on the hole good. these people who are at the top and i dont mean your gov. the real people the bankers who control the money etc just create us all in to slaves. the biggest thing they have in their advantage is that we all dont stand together. we are all divided. through religion, culture, race etc they would be screwd if we all stood as one. said we dont want to go to war for you. we dont need oil.there is eltric cars we could us. these people use us as slaves and we just carry on. "im a good lad me" "yes sir, no sir" we need unity not division.

There are things in this country at the top levels of government that even the government know nothing about. My father-in-law was at a fairly high level within the police force and during his career he had to attend meetings at the Bank of England...I think it was the time when he was doing high level fraud (this took place before I knew him and my wife). He won't speak much about it and was reminded of his obligations under the secrets act when he left but the few things he has said have made me think. Back to the story...he told me a while ago that when he was at these meetings with bank and government officials etc...quite often the meeting would be in progress and people would turn up and sit in on the meeting. They were not announced, nobody knew their name or what department they came from, my father in law is quite insistent that they were not MI5 etc etc...and then they would leave. He doesn't say much about it other than there are people in places that even the government know very little about. He did say it was clear that nobody was to ask questions of them etc. I've never pushed him on the subject and he wouldn't tell me if I did but it did all sound very cloak and daggers and he is not one to bullhit.