9/11 Conspiracy?

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Matty said:
bluezi said:
There is so much weight to say the Pentagon did to themselves and nowt but a grainy video of an old man who they cant find to blame it on.
And, pray tell, where are the crew and passengers, and for that matter the plane, that flew into the Pentagon right now if, as you suggest, they didn't actually fly into the Pentagon? They took off from an airport, the people who died on that plane actually existed pre 9/11 and now don't. Where are they?

As I said, total, total bollocks the lot of it.
Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

I think your in denial mate, and if you don’t mind me saying it is also very disrespectful a lot of innocent people died on 911,the legacy will be there for many generations, hundreds of kids who lost mums and dads or both, partners who lost loved ones, it affected everybody from all walks off life.

Those acts were carried out by extremists in the name of Islam(Perversely in the name of Islam ) that’s a fact.
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

forevercity said:
Matty said:
RobinJo said:
Very interesting how the pentagon roof managed to stay on when the tail on the plane would have brought it down.
That's in your expert opinion as a plane crash investigator is it?

if a plane crashed into my house and all i had was a 10 metre hole in one wall, would i need to be a structural engineer to have an opinion and say it is strange?
If your house was as sturdy, and as large, as the pentagon then possibly. I direct you to my earlier question though, if you're saying the pentagon wasn't hit by a plane, where exactly did the plane and all it's passengers/crew actually end up?
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

LEE BRADBURY said:
Matty said:
bluezi said:
There is so much weight to say the Pentagon did to themselves and nowt but a grainy video of an old man who they cant find to blame it on.
And, pray tell, where are the crew and passengers, and for that matter the plane, that flew into the Pentagon right now if, as you suggest, they didn't actually fly into the Pentagon? They took off from an airport, the people who died on that plane actually existed pre 9/11 and now don't. Where are they?

As I said, total, total bollocks the lot of it.
Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

I think your in denial mate, and if you don’t mind me saying it is also very disrespectful a lot of innocent people died on 911,the legacy will be there for many generations, hundreds of kids who lost mums and dads or both, partners who lost loved ones, it affected everybody from all walks off life.

Those acts were carried out by extremists in the name of Islam that’s a fact.
I'm assuming this was aimed at bluezi and not me!!!!
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Matty said:
forevercity said:
Matty said:
RobinJo said:
Very interesting how the pentagon roof managed to stay on when the tail on the plane would have brought it down.
That's in your expert opinion as a plane crash investigator is it?

if a plane crashed into my house and all i had was a 10 metre hole in one wall, would i need to be a structural engineer to have an opinion and say it is strange?
If your house was as sturdy, and as large, as the pentagon then possibly. I direct you to my earlier question though, if you're saying the pentagon wasn't hit by a plane, where exactly did the plane and all it's passengers/crew actually end up?


they ended up burned and dead.

strange that the heat could burn people into dust and the terrorists passport was intact.

them terrorists with indestructable passports eh!!
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Matty said:
LEE BRADBURY said:
Matty said:
bluezi said:
There is so much weight to say the Pentagon did to themselves and nowt but a grainy video of an old man who they cant find to blame it on.
And, pray tell, where are the crew and passengers, and for that matter the plane, that flew into the Pentagon right now if, as you suggest, they didn't actually fly into the Pentagon? They took off from an airport, the people who died on that plane actually existed pre 9/11 and now don't. Where are they?

As I said, total, total bollocks the lot of it.
Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

I think your in denial mate, and if you don’t mind me saying it is also very disrespectful a lot of innocent people died on 911,the legacy will be there for many generations, hundreds of kids who lost mums and dads or both, partners who lost loved ones, it affected everybody from all walks off life.

Those acts were carried out by extremists in the name of Islam that’s a fact.
I'm assuming this was aimed at bluezi and not me!!!!
my apologies mate it was :-)
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

forevercity said:
Matty said:
forevercity said:
if a plane crashed into my house and all i had was a 10 metre hole in one wall, would i need to be a structural engineer to have an opinion and say it is strange?
If your house was as sturdy, and as large, as the pentagon then possibly. I direct you to my earlier question though, if you're saying the pentagon wasn't hit by a plane, where exactly did the plane and all it's passengers/crew actually end up?


they ended up burned and dead.

strange that the heat could burn people into dust and the terrorists passport was intact.

them terrorists with indestructable passports eh!!

So, on the one hand you're accepting the people all died because they crashed in a plane into the Pentagon, but on the other hand you're claiming that a plane couldn't have crashed into the Pentagon because there wasn't enough damage? I'm not certain, but I think I can see a flaw in your 'logic'.
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Matty said:
forevercity said:
Matty said:
forevercity said:
if a plane crashed into my house and all i had was a 10 metre hole in one wall, would i need to be a structural engineer to have an opinion and say it is strange?
If your house was as sturdy, and as large, as the pentagon then possibly. I direct you to my earlier question though, if you're saying the pentagon wasn't hit by a plane, where exactly did the plane and all it's passengers/crew actually end up?


they ended up burned and dead.

strange that the heat could burn people into dust and the terrorists passport was intact.

them terrorists with indestructable passports eh!!

So, on the one hand you're accepting the people all died because they crashed in a plane into the Pentagon, but on the other hand you're claiming that a plane couldn't have crashed into the Pentagon because there wasn't enough damage? I'm not certain, but I think I can see a flaw in your 'logic'.

please direct me where i have gave my 'logic'?

i have said the pentagon thing is strange.

where else have i gave my opinions on 9/11?

telling someone their logic is flawed when they havent actualy given their full opinions is why this board is full of cretins.

BTW, your thoughts on WW2 are flawed, im the same as you, i dont need to know your thoughts, but i know they are flawed :)
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

I'm still none the wiser, but its interesting you get peoples views :-)
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

RobinJo said:
I'm still none the wiser, but its interesting you get peoples views :-)

many people are mate, the last thread we had on it went on for 20 odd pages and had great points and views

but matty has told us we can't talk about it and tells us our points are flawed without even hearing them!!!
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

forevercity said:
please direct me where i have gave my 'logic'?

i have said the pentagon thing is strange.

where else have i gave my opinions on 9/11?

telling someone their logic is flawed when they havent actualy given their full opinions is why this board is full of cretins.

BTW, your thoughts on WW2 are flawed, im the same as you, i dont need to know your thoughts, but i know they are flawed :)
So, pray tell, what do you mean by 'strange'? Can you explain your comment regarding the 10 metre hole without suggesting you meant a plane couldn't have caused it? I don't need to have you spell something out to me to read between the lines and see what you're actually implying. To suggest you were meaning anything else is insulting to people with actual intelligence rather than those who just pretend to be clever by hiding behind insinuation.
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

forevercity said:
RobinJo said:
I'm still none the wiser, but its interesting you get peoples views :-)

many people are mate, the last thread we had on it went on for 20 odd pages and had great points and views

but matty has told us we can't talk about it and tells us our points are flawed without even hearing them!!!

You can talk about it, but I also reserve the right to call you a moron for expressing idiotic views. Views you DID express, albeit not explicitly spelt out. I, like many on Bluemoon, am capable of seeign what you mean without actually having ot have the exact words "It wasn't a plane" written in your post. Cue backtracking and claiming you never meant that and I'm making stuff up.
 
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Hi Lee, You have misunderstood my meaning, what im saying is that i Believe the US govt are to blame for the 911 atrocity not Bin Laden or Iraq. Thats what i beleive.
 
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Where did all the rubble go?


Been told it got shipped out to China without examination.
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

bluezi said:
Hi Lee, You have misunderstood my meaning, what im saying is that i Believe the US govt are to blame for the 911 atrocity not Bin Laden or Iraq. Thats what i beleive.
By 'to blame' are you meaning they actually carried out the attacks themselves or that their actions as a nation lead terrorists to undertake the attacks? If it's the former then you're a moron. If it's the later then I can see where you may have a point as America's attitude and behaviour worldwide hasn't endeared themselves to many countries/people. However, regardless of their culpability the actions of the terrorists should never be tolerated or defended.
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Matty said:
forevercity said:
please direct me where i have gave my 'logic'?

i have said the pentagon thing is strange.

where else have i gave my opinions on 9/11?

telling someone their logic is flawed when they havent actualy given their full opinions is why this board is full of cretins.

BTW, your thoughts on WW2 are flawed, im the same as you, i dont need to know your thoughts, but i know they are flawed :)
So, pray tell, what do you mean by 'strange'? Can you explain your comment regarding the 10 metre hole without suggesting you meant a plane couldn't have caused it? I don't need to have you spell something out to me to read between the lines and see what you're actually implying. To suggest you were meaning anything else is insulting to people with actual intelligence rather than those who just pretend to be clever by hiding behind insinuation.


hahahahaha check you out getting all worked up! the comment about the 10metre hole being strange is what i believe to be strange! can you tell me why a plane crashing into a building will cause such a small hole and no noticable damage tothe surrounding areas? i like to sit on the fence on these debates, i find both views interesting.

i also find it amusing that you are a mod and you are causing aggressive debate (calling posters morons, saying they lack intelligence etc).

all views are welcome on this thread(unless Matty disagree's with you, then you are called a moron). Also, this thread has generated 4 pages in about 10 (?) mins. So its obvious people want to discuss it, not just call people with other views morons etc.
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

bluezi said:
Hi Lee, You have misunderstood my meaning, what im saying is that i Believe the US govt are to blame for the 911 atrocity not Bin Laden or Iraq. Thats what i beleive.
Do you really believe that ? or are you just in denial because it was caused by some crazy followers of your faith ,and you find it easier to deal with because you cant comprehend that anybody like you (by that I mean peaceful law abiding Muslim like you) could do such a thing ?

Many Germans still deny the holocaust ever took place, although they very rarely admit it, probably because it is easier to deal with
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Matty said:
bluezi said:
Hi Lee, You have misunderstood my meaning, what im saying is that i Believe the US govt are to blame for the 911 atrocity not Bin Laden or Iraq. Thats what i beleive.
By 'to blame' are you meaning they actually carried out the attacks themselves or that their actions as a nation lead terrorists to undertake the attacks? If it's the former then you're a moron. If it's the later then I can see where you may have a point as America's attitude and behaviour worldwide hasn't endeared themselves to many countries/people. However, regardless of their culpability the actions of the terrorists should never be tolerated or defended.


Have you ever watched the video claiming it was a conspiracy? By that I don't mean its the truth, just wondering if you have because you can't deny its all strange. How about how the towers came down? Looked like a demolitian job to me.
 
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the way to make your mind up on this is to do your own investigation through reading and looking at things on the internet. The mainstream media show you what they want you to hear and see. if you stick to that you always goin to beleive whats in front of you. for the ones who dont believe the conspiracy are people who tend to not investigate IMO. the is so much what the people in charge will not show you there reports. These people do not care how many real people die in these things if anything they want more people to die. the more people die the more they get the vote to go to war with these people who they deem are the baddies and the sheep that watch the medie are then all for "go and get them"
 
Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

cbeebies is poo said:
the way to make your mind up on this is to do your own investigation through reading and looking at things on the internet. The mainstream media show you what they want you to hear and see. if you stick to that you always goin to beleive whats in front of you. for the ones who dont believe the conspiracy are people who tend to not investigate IMO. the is so much what the people in charge will not show you there reports. These people do not care how many real people die in these things if anything they want more people to die. the more people die the more they get the vote to go to war with these people who they deem are the baddies and the sheep that watch the medie are then all for "go and get them"


The media is run by the government, if they tell you to not to print something then they don't. If they tell you to put something in then they do.
 

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