9/11 Conspiracy?

[cbeebies is poo]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

the way to make your mind up on this is to do your own investigation through reading and looking at things on the internet. The mainstream media show you what they want you to hear and see. if you stick to that you always goin to beleive whats in front of you. for the ones who dont believe the conspiracy are people who tend to not investigate IMO. the is so much what the people in charge will not show you there reports. These people do not care how many real people die in these things if anything they want more people to die. the more people die the more they get the vote to go to war with these people who they deem are the baddies and the sheep that watch the medie are then all for "go and get them"

check that mainstream media? they are ace.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkFpmZxyWEI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkFpmZxyWEI</a>

 

[cbeebies is poo]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

the way to make your mind up on this is to do your own investigation through reading and looking at things on the internet. The mainstream media show you what they want you to hear and see. if you stick to that you always goin to beleive whats in front of you. for the ones who dont believe the conspiracy are people who tend to not investigate IMO. the is so much what the people in charge will not show you there reports. These people do not care how many real people die in these things if anything they want more people to die. the more people die the more they get the vote to go to war with these people who they deem are the baddies and the sheep that watch the medie are then all for "go and get them"

The media is run by the government, if they tell you to not to print something then they don't. If they tell you to put something in then they do.

that is my point i always the best comedy show on the box is the news? its made up to how they want you to believe or percive something

 

[Rammy Blue]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

forgive my poor memory but wasn't there also a claim that a news reporter had reported that the towers had collapsed PRIOR to them actually collapsing?

 

[cbeebies is poo]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

forgive my poor memory but wasn't there also a claim that a news reporter had reported that the towers had collapsed PRIOR to them actually collapsing?

yes i just put a link on for that excuse me if it is wrong one as cant get on youtube google video etc but tried to get link on.

 

[LEE BRADBURY]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Hi Lee, You have misunderstood my meaning, what im saying is that i Believe the US govt are to blame for the 911 atrocity not Bin Laden or Iraq. Thats what i beleive.

By 'to blame' are you meaning they actually carried out the attacks themselves or that their actions as a nation lead terrorists to undertake the attacks? If it's the former then you're a moron. If it's the later then I can see where you may have a point as America's attitude and behaviour worldwide hasn't endeared themselves to many countries/people. However, regardless of their culpability the actions of the terrorists should never be tolerated or defended.

Have to agree with that statement, what ever problems we have across the globe, the Americans have gone around pouring petrol on the flames, the Middle East Afghanistan, the Americans have made a right mess and actually pushed people in to the hands of extremists with their foreign policy, they are now trying desperately to disentangle them selves from the mess in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I personally would love nothing more than to see Blair and Bush on trial in The Hague for crimes against humanity.

I still believe the war in Iraq was illegal, no matter what Goldstein says.

Nobody has the right to invade a sovereign nation.

What’s the point in having the United Nations ?

 

[Matty]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

hahahahaha check you out getting all worked up! the comment about the 10metre hole being strange is what i believe to be strange! can you tell me why a plane crashing into a building will cause such a small hole and no noticable damage tothe surrounding areas? i like to sit on the fence on these debates, i find both views interesting.

i also find it amusing that you are a mod and you are causing aggressive debate (calling posters morons, saying they lack intelligence etc).

all views are welcome on this thread(unless Matty disagree's with you, then you are called a moron). Also, this thread has generated 4 pages in about 10 (?) mins. So its obvious people want to discuss it, not just call people with other views morons etc.

I say it as I see it, if people think terrorists didn't commit the attacks on 9/11 then they are, in fact, morons. I can't help the fact they're morons.

Taking the question "can you tell me why a plane crashing into a building will cause such a small hole and no noticable damage to the surrounding areas?" I'll say no, based on the fact I don't know enough about structural engineering or plane crash investigation. However, lets just say, for arguments sake, that the reason there was no surrounding damage, and the hole was so small, is because the damage wasn't caused by a plane, but a bomb, or a missile. This still leaves the question "Where did the plane that officially crashed into the Pentagon go if it didn't, in fact, crash into the Pentagon?" Can you answer that?

 

[cbeebies is poo]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Hi Lee, You have misunderstood my meaning, what im saying is that i Believe the US govt are to blame for the 911 atrocity not Bin Laden or Iraq. Thats what i beleive.

By 'to blame' are you meaning they actually carried out the attacks themselves or that their actions as a nation lead terrorists to undertake the attacks? If it's the former then you're a moron. If it's the later then I can see where you may have a point as America's attitude and behaviour worldwide hasn't endeared themselves to many countries/people. However, regardless of their culpability the actions of the terrorists should never be tolerated or defended.

Have to agree with that statement, what ever problems we have across the globe, the Americans have gone around pouring petrol on the flames, the Middle East Afghanistan, the Americans have made a right mess and actually pushed people in to the hands of extremists with their foreign policy, they are now trying desperately to disentangle them selves from the mess in Iraq and Afghanistan.

you need to know that U.N is a conspiracy in itself all aimed at one world gov.

<a class="postlink" href="http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illuminatiagendabestoverviewyet8jun02.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illumin ... un02.shtml</a>

I personally would love nothing more than to see Blair and Bush on trial in The Hague for crimes against humanity.

I still believe the war in Iraq was illegal, no matter what Goldstein says.

Nobody has the right to invade a sovereign nation.

What’s the point in having the United Nations ?

 

[cbeebies is poo]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Hi Lee, You have misunderstood my meaning, what im saying is that i Believe the US govt are to blame for the 911 atrocity not Bin Laden or Iraq. Thats what i beleive.

By 'to blame' are you meaning they actually carried out the attacks themselves or that their actions as a nation lead terrorists to undertake the attacks? If it's the former then you're a moron. If it's the later then I can see where you may have a point as America's attitude and behaviour worldwide hasn't endeared themselves to many countries/people. However, regardless of their culpability the actions of the terrorists should never be tolerated or defended.

Have to agree with that statement, what ever problems we have across the globe, the Americans have gone around pouring petrol on the flames, the Middle East Afghanistan, the Americans have made a right mess and actually pushed people in to the hands of extremists with their foreign policy, they are now trying desperately to disentangle them selves from the mess in Iraq and Afghanistan.

you need to know that U.N is a conspiracy in itself all aimed at one world gov.

<a class="postlink" href="http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illuminatiagendabestoverviewyet8jun02.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illumin ... un02.shtml</a>

I personally would love nothing more than to see Blair and Bush on trial in The Hague for crimes against humanity.

I still believe the war in Iraq was illegal, no matter what Goldstein says.

Nobody has the right to invade a sovereign nation.

What’s the point in having the United Nations ?

you need to know that U.N is a conspiracy in itself all aimed at one world gov.

<a class="postlink" href="http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illumin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illumin</a> ... un02.shtml

 

[Rammy Blue]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

hahahahaha check you out getting all worked up! the comment about the 10metre hole being strange is what i believe to be strange! can you tell me why a plane crashing into a building will cause such a small hole and no noticable damage tothe surrounding areas? i like to sit on the fence on these debates, i find both views interesting.

i also find it amusing that you are a mod and you are causing aggressive debate (calling posters morons, saying they lack intelligence etc).

all views are welcome on this thread(unless Matty disagree's with you, then you are called a moron). Also, this thread has generated 4 pages in about 10 (?) mins. So its obvious people want to discuss it, not just call people with other views morons etc.

I say it as I see it, if people think terrorists didn't commit the attacks on 9/11 then they are, in fact, morons. I can't help the fact they're morons.

Taking the question "can you tell me why a plane crashing into a building will cause such a small hole and no noticable damage to the surrounding areas?" I'll say no, based on the fact I don't know enough about structural engineering or plane crash investigation. However, lets just say, for arguments sake, that the reason there was no surrounding damage, and the hole was so small, is because the damage wasn't caused by a plane, but a bomb, or a missile. This still leaves the question "Where did the plane that officially crashed into the Pentagon go if it didn't, in fact, crash into the Pentagon?" Can you answer that?

Area 51, Roswell....obviously.

 

[forevermancity]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

hahahahaha check you out getting all worked up! the comment about the 10metre hole being strange is what i believe to be strange! can you tell me why a plane crashing into a building will cause such a small hole and no noticable damage tothe surrounding areas? i like to sit on the fence on these debates, i find both views interesting.

i also find it amusing that you are a mod and you are causing aggressive debate (calling posters morons, saying they lack intelligence etc).

all views are welcome on this thread(unless Matty disagree's with you, then you are called a moron). Also, this thread has generated 4 pages in about 10 (?) mins. So its obvious people want to discuss it, not just call people with other views morons etc.

I say it as I see it, if people think terrorists didn't commit the attacks on 9/11 then they are, in fact, morons. I can't help the fact they're morons.

Taking the question "can you tell me why a plane crashing into a building will cause such a small hole and no noticable damage to the surrounding areas?" I'll say no, based on the fact I don't know enough about structural engineering or plane crash investigation. However, lets just say, for arguments sake, that the reason there was no surrounding damage, and the hole was so small, is because the damage wasn't caused by a plane, but a bomb, or a missile. This still leaves the question "Where did the plane that officially crashed into the Pentagon go if it didn't, in fact, crash into the Pentagon?" Can you answer that?

no, i can't answer that. can you? if you can't surely you are saying the situation is strange? Wich, by your logic, you are a moron (as i said it was strange and you called me a moron).

its amazing that you know as much as everyone else on this subject, yet you think you are right and believe you have the right to call others names.

 

[bluezi]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Just for the record im neither a moron or in denile i am however a law abiding and peacefull Citizen I will always believe that the US govt had more to do with this than you or i can actually prove, i am able to open my mind and listen to other peoples thoughts on this without calling them a moron, if you can change my mind on this then go right ahead im listening, in between work and looking after my son.

 

[cbeebies is poo]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Matty says he says it how he sees it! which no doubt he will go on at me. it refers to my thing of if you watch mainstream media you will believe that. And never question it.

 

[Matty]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

no, i can't answer that. can you? if you can't surely you are saying the situation is strange? Wich, by your logic, you are a moron (as i said it was strange and you called me a moron).

its amazing that you know as much as everyone else on this subject, yet you think you are right and believe you have the right to call others names.

We saw planes hit the twin towers, clearly terrorism. We didn't actually see the plane hit the Pentagon, suddenly it's strange? I don't know if it's strange the damage caused at the Pentagon because I don't know enough about the structural dynamics of the Pentagon or how it would react to being hit by a plane. In answer to "can I answer where the plane went if it didn't hit the Pentagon" the answer is "No I can't" however, that's because there is NO explanation (beyond wild, farcical government assassinations). The plane isn't anywhere else, the passengers aren't anywhere else. They were all destroyed when the plane hit the Pentagon, because that's what happened. I know as much as everyone else, that's true, however I'm not trying to pick at some slight anomaly or minute discrepancy and turn it into a far fetched conspiracy where the American Government killed several thousand of it's own people. I'm accepting that the terrible terrorist attrocity that we saw unfold before our very eyes actually happened. I don't know where Glenn Miller or Amelie Airhart are, but I'd be willing to wager they're somewhere under a sea/ocean still in their airplanes very much dead rather than on the planet Glebfax-5 with the Flurbian people following alien abduction.

 

[Matty]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Matty says he says it how he sees it! which no doubt he will go on at me. it refers to my thing of if you watch mainstream media you will believe that. And never question it.

I remember seeing the planes hit the towers, pretty sure that wasn't a special effect created by CNN's graphics department.

 

[CFCnibs]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Just been watching it at college, and find it all very intriguing. Lecturer was telling me the Americans did it to install fear in terrorists.
I really don't get why the Americans would do this, someone explain :-)

Or your views on whether you believe it was a conspiracy or not. But it all seems very strange.

Your lecturer actually said that?

Was he just putting to you a possible theory or does he actually believe that? If so that is extremely worrying that we have such idiots lecturing these days.

 

[LEE BRADBURY]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Matty says he says it how he sees it! which no doubt he will go on at me. it refers to my thing of if you watch mainstream media you will believe that. And never question it.

thanks for the link thats a very interesting read :-)

 

[ShaunMCFC]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Just been watching it at college, and find it all very intriguing. Lecturer was telling me the Americans did it to install fear in terrorists.
I really don't get why the Americans would do this, someone explain :-)

Or your views on whether you believe it was a conspiracy or not. But it all seems very strange.

Your lecturer actually said that?

Was he just putting to you a possible theory or does he actually believe that? If so that is extremely worrying that we have such idiots lecturing these days.

Yeah, I said I don't see how or why they would kill several thousand of their own people. And he replied to intall fear in terrorists.

 

[LEE BRADBURY]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

<a class="postlink" href="http://911lies.org/full_size_911_pentagon_attack_damage5.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://911lies.org/full_size_911_pentag ... mage5.html</a>




interesting read for sceptics

 

[cbeebies is poo]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Just been watching it at college, and find it all very intriguing. Lecturer was telling me the Americans did it to install fear in terrorists.
I really don't get why the Americans would do this, someone explain :-)

Or your views on whether you believe it was a conspiracy or not. But it all seems very strange.

Your lecturer actually said that?

Was he just putting to you a possible theory or does he actually believe that? If so that is extremely worrying that we have such idiots lecturing these days.

that is great that you have a lecture that speakds what he thinks. dont get me wrong he should not empower his views on you but should keep you open minded.
im sorry but if thats the attitude you have about education i feel for you. education is about thinking question things. not believe everything they tell you just because a teacher tells you.
if we carry on down the route of believe what they say we all think the same indivduality goes out the window the gov will make up what ever they want and we will all think the same BIG BROTHER? DONT QUESTION JUST BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAAAA LIKE THE OTHER SHEEP

 

[Matty]

Re: 9/11 Conspiracy.

Just been watching it at college, and find it all very intriguing. Lecturer was telling me the Americans did it to install fear in terrorists.
I really don't get why the Americans would do this, someone explain :-)

Or your views on whether you believe it was a conspiracy or not. But it all seems very strange.

Your lecturer actually said that?

Was he just putting to you a possible theory or does he actually believe that? If so that is extremely worrying that we have such idiots lecturing these days.

Yeah, I said I don't see how or why they would kill several thousand of their own people. And he replied to intall fear in terrorists.

Terrorists blow themselves up inorder to kill those around them, what exactly are they going to be scared off?!!!!!! Your lecturer, especially working in America, is treading on some very thin ice if he's teaching impressionable young minds this kind of consiracy bullshit. I don't know the ins and outs of the patriot act, but he'd be seriously close to breaching it.