9/11 - More evidence it was set up by people in the shadows

bluemoonmatt said:
ElanJo said:
If they were killed in some other way than the official account then it would be disrespectful to carry on with the official account. The only way to determine whether the official account is true or not is to first question it.
It has been questioned time and time again, and the same conclusions have been found time and time again. Good enough for me and the vast majority of Americans including those whose loved one's lost their lives that day, but it seems not good enough for people who simply, for some twisted reason WANT to believe the evil monstrous USA were to blame.

ElanJo said:
Infact, regardless of the official account, the only respectful thing to do is to look into 9/11.
There have been many unnoffical inquests held, mainly by experts or so called experts, again the vast majority of these have found that these acts were carried out by deranged evil murderous terrorists. How hard is that to understand.

ElanJo said:
I take it that, since you're so concerned with respect for the victims, you've done hours upon hours, months upon months, of hard independant research into the events of 9/11 and those leading up to it?
Whats with you're tone here. are you implying I don't give a shit or am feigning sympathy. You don't know me, how fucking dare you. In answer to the question, no I hav'nt, I have read enough in the news and seen enough on the TV, from both sides of the argument to make a rational decision, why you think this should impact on my ability to show basic human emotions such as sympathy, compassion or respect is beyond me. This was below the belt Elanjo.

ElanJo said:
And before I'm labeled a CT, I don't think the US Government flew planes into the towers and demolished them.
No clearly you're one of these who prefers to "keep my mind open maaan" but why you feel the need go around questioning others feelings on the subject in a frankly offensive way is beyond me. Always thought you were a decent poster on here, clearly I was mistaken

Matt, can you do something that certain partie(S) fail to do when the cap does'nt fit, and answer me if i give you just one question?


If some method was invented to completely take control of a hijacked plane, to take over control of the Plane from the ground i mean, then why was'nt this method which incidently was invented solely for the purpose of a hijack situation, indeed used on JUST ONE OF THE PLANES?
 
that's right Buzzer, someone, somewhere was on the ground here and able to stop these planes with their finger over the control box BUT DIDN'T!

CONSPIRACY!!!

they must have been amazed and conflicted knowing what was going on, but nevertheless having been given orders from their boss(es) to fly the aircraft into the WTC, killing all still inside and others underneath - including firefighters and police.

of course, all who worked on this secret plan and secret equipment are still running around doing their jobs, because that's what really happens in an advanced and bureaucratic country like the USA... you have people willingly committing gross atrocities and murder; it's just a regular day at the office for them.

tell you something else too, Challenger - the shuttle that blew up, secretly contained Lord Lucan, and was a complete cover-up to get him off the planet and vapourised into space to avoid massive EMBARRASSMENT to the UK gov't and line the pockets of those who wanted to build another space shuttle. Lying bastards!

Did I tell you the one about the secret moon base yet?

(anyone who knows much about the events of that day with the 9/11 attacks, knows that US fighter jets were scrambled but couldn't intercept the passenger jets that hit the WTC quickly enough by the time it was known a terrorist attack was taking place... how stupid of them to bother with fighter planes stationed too far away when there was a magic little box that can take over any civilian airline flight from the ground: Only $29.99 from Walmart and all good electronic stores - which any commercial pilot will confirm. How sad they didn't know about all of this and that air-traffic control eventually shut down the whole of US airspace bringing all flights out of the skies and costing untold expense and disrupting normal economic activity, wiping billions of dollars off of American and overseas airlines share prices, and all for the sake of not buying one of these little common-or-garden magic boxes with which you can fly any aircraft anywhere... You know what, I fancy a Stealth Bomber, but maybe I can get more of my mates into a Jumbo... reckon I'll nick one next week and have a bit of fun with it. No one will notice it's missing, they've got so many of them. I'm off to Walmart...)
 
MCFCinUSA said:
that's right Buzzer, someone, somewhere was on the ground here and able to stop these planes with their finger over the control box BUT DIDN'T!

CONSPIRACY!!!

they must have been amazed and conflicted knowing what was going on, but nevertheless having been given orders from their boss(es) to fly the aircraft into the WTC, killing all still inside and others underneath - including firefighters and police.

of course, all who worked on this secret plan and secret equipment are still running around doing their jobs, because that's what really happens in an advanced and bureaucratic country like the USA... you have people willingly committing gross atrocities and murder; it's just a regular day at the office for them.

tell you something else too, Challenger - the shuttle that blew up, secretly contained Lord Lucan, and was a complete cover-up to get him off the planet and vapourised into space to avoid massive EMBARRASSMENT to the UK gov't and line the pockets of those who wanted to build another space shuttle. Lying bastards!

Did I tell you the one about the secret moon base yet?

(anyone who knows much about the events of that day with the 9/11 attacks, knows that US fighter jets were scrambled but couldn't intercept the passenger jets that hit the WTC quickly enough by the time it was known a terrorist attack was taking place... how stupid of them to bother with fighter planes stationed too far away when there was a magic little box that can take over any civilian airline flight from the ground: Only $29.99 from Walmart and all good electronic stores - which any commercial pilot will confirm. How sad they didn't know about all of this and that air-traffic control eventually shut down the whole of US airspace bringing all flights out of the skies and costing untold expense and disrupting normal economic activity, wiping billions of dollars off of American and overseas airlines share prices, and all for the sake of not buying one of these little common-or-garden magic boxes with which you can fly any aircraft anywhere... You know what, I fancy a Stealth Bomber, but maybe I can get more of my mates into a Jumbo... reckon I'll nick one next week and have a bit of fun with it. No one will notice it's missing, they've got so many of them. I'm off to Walmart...)


Ha ha, they damn well fkin do, all over the world, the biggest war mongering nation known to man, including the hand they have in the decimation of the Palestinian HUMAN BEINGS. Shower of shit mate if truth be known.

You my friend are pathetic, and before you go tagging people with the "well theres no need to get personal" bullshit, he who casts the first stone and all that, i am still awaiting a thread were indeed i started slinginmg shit at you or anybody for that matter, you come at me with a gun for fuk all, i come back with a tank, ok mate.

Your post above again just shows you in a pathetic and childish light, if you are un aware that such a thing as an overide exists then just say, no need for the patronisation or expect it back, as i said Mr. Robot Radical smart arse, capiche. Now answer my question that i actualy asked Matt, IF YOU CAN, if not, then move along, simple as....
 
the thing i love about conspiracy theorists is the smugness. they think they know some great truth and the rest of us are 'sheeple'. its ironic really considering their entire worldview is based on a couple of shoddy youtube videos which they swallow hook, line and sinker with no critical thinking whatsoever.
 
DirtyEddie said:
the thing i love about conspiracy theorists is the smugness. they think they know some great truth and the rest of us are 'sheeple'. its ironic really considering their entire worldview is based on a couple of shoddy youtube videos which they swallow hook, line and sinker with no critical thinking whatsoever.


Your blind, we are smug, blah blah. You know what gets me, the fact that people like get sooooo fukin wound up and angry and start resorting to digs, just because someone has a different view or take on things. What's with the smug bit? not getting your way are we not? Pathetic at best, disturbing really. Live and let lllliiivvve and don't get so involved and wound up, go and move onto another thread if all you can do is snipe and not contribute, dead easy really.
 
I think the biggest factor in them not controlling the planes is from ground (even if they could)

1. Nobody knew which planes had been hijacked, the first was out of the blue the second was not long after and neither was the 3rd. I going to guess it takes time to set up this equipment?

2. I think but im not totally sure they lost all radio contact and signal with planes well i think flight 93 anyway.

3. The only thing i could actually see being true in this would be that the one plane that didn't make it to its destination (the white house apparently) was shot down. That's the only one i think could be true but my personal opinion on the that is it wasn't.

4. Wasn't it also the 1st day in charge for the bloke that was controlling all of the planes in America? I mean the top top bloke. May be wrong on this but i remember something a long those lines.
 
buzzer1 said:
Your blind, we are smug, blah blah. You know what gets me, the fact that people like get sooooo fukin wound up and angry and start resorting to digs, just because someone has a different view or take on things. What's with the smug bit? not getting your way are we not? Pathetic at best, disturbing really. Live and let lllliiivvve and don't get so involved and wound up, go and move onto another thread if all you can do is snipe and not contribute, dead easy really.
im not angry or wound up. just bemused. you seem to have the attitude that everyone is entitled to their opinion, every opinion is equally valid and you shouldn't criticise people for holding such opinions. well that's rubbish frankly, if you're going to espouse a point of view be prepared to defend it.

thinking everyone's view is equally valid is dangerous nonsense. this path leads to creationism being taught in science classes. if i hold the view that 2+2=5, and refuse to accept that it can be anything other than 5 no matter what evidence is presented, does that mean my view is equally valid? of course it doesn't.

if you want a resal conspiracy that took place on 11th september have a look at what happened in chile in 1973
 
.allan said:
I think the biggest factor in them not controlling the planes is from ground (even if they could)

1. Nobody knew which planes had been hijacked, the first was out of the blue the second was not long after and neither was the 3rd. I going to guess it takes time to set up this equipment?

2. I think but im not totally sure they lost all radio contact and signal with planes well i think flight 93 anyway.

3. The only thing i could actually see being true in this would be that the one plane that didn't make it to its destination (the white house apparently) was shot down. That's the only one i think could be true but my personal opinion on the that is it wasn't.


Ok mate, so howcome it took so long for ANY jet to be scrambled? oh i forgot, the military was in Alaska or somewhere that day rehearsing for..... oh a terrorist attack, YCNMIU. Wait a minute though, on 7/7, where were the police etc on 7/7? ha ha, they were only practising the very same day for a fukin terrorist attack on London,ELSEWHERE, again, YCNMIU.
 
buzzer1 said:
.allan said:
I think the biggest factor in them not controlling the planes is from ground (even if they could)

1. Nobody knew which planes had been hijacked, the first was out of the blue the second was not long after and neither was the 3rd. I going to guess it takes time to set up this equipment?

2. I think but im not totally sure they lost all radio contact and signal with planes well i think flight 93 anyway.

3. The only thing i could actually see being true in this would be that the one plane that didn't make it to its destination (the white house apparently) was shot down. That's the only one i think could be true but my personal opinion on the that is it wasn't.


Ok mate, so howcome it took so long for ANY jet to be scrambled? oh i forgot, the military was in Alaska or somewhere that day rehearsing for..... oh a terrorist attack, YCNMIU. Wait a minute though, on 7/7, where were the police etc on 7/7? ha ha, they were only practising the very same day for a fukin terrorist attack on London,ELSEWHERE, again, YCNMIU.
I think you have answered you own question "YCNMIU".
 
DirtyEddie said:
buzzer1 said:
Your blind, we are smug, blah blah. You know what gets me, the fact that people like get sooooo fukin wound up and angry and start resorting to digs, just because someone has a different view or take on things. What's with the smug bit? not getting your way are we not? Pathetic at best, disturbing really. Live and let lllliiivvve and don't get so involved and wound up, go and move onto another thread if all you can do is snipe and not contribute, dead easy really.
im not angry or wound up. just bemused. you seem to have the attitude that everyone is entitled to their opinion, every opinion is equally valid and you shouldn't criticise people for holding such opinions. well that's rubbish frankly, if you're going to espouse a point of view be prepared to defend it.

thinking everyone's view is equally valid is dangerous nonsense. this path leads to creationism being taught in science classes. if i hold the view that 2+2=5, and refuse to accept that it can be anything other than 5 no matter what evidence is presented, does that mean my view is equally valid? of course it doesn't.

if you want a resal conspiracy that took place on 11th september have a look at what happened in chile in 1973

Ok then, then just post your opinion on the subject instead of having little unprovoked digs then, if you can like. Also, to just believe the OFFICIAL story with help from our beloved Media, is very very dangerous and such behaviour should be frowned upon and not applauded, imo. For your info.., i do not look at things blindly but on the contrary, i have looked at both evidence on 9/11, 7/7 and just general news stories on the tv and newspapers, i choose to not even watch any of it now as they tell us what they want to and that is all, i think there is more to the world than bbc, fox news and the daily star.
 

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