A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps.

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blueinsa said:
blue underpants said:
blueinsa said:
Sky desperately trying to focus close up on stills of the crash site and asking an "expert" what he thinks he can see, desperate to see something I think none of us actually wants too.

150 have lost their lives, show some respect ffs.
Don't tune into Euronews, they are talking about headless corpses and body parts, had to turn it off rapid

There is absolutely no need for news broadcasts like this when friends and families of those lost are still coming to terms with the shocking news and are probably still trying to find out news themselves.

The editors should hang their heads in shame.

Youre right, no need. We can all imagine what the debris look like without being told by these twats.
 
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blue underpants said:
There's a few good aircraft people on here, can you tell us if it's safe for a 24 year old aircraft to be flying?

Its a good point to make. I have no knowledge in aviation but in crashes before, age of aircraft has been an issue with air frames and cracks becoming more of an issue. Yes they get regular inspections and i believe this plane had a technical inspection just days before but how thorough they are in detecting issues with air frames etc I've no idea.

That aside, its way too early to even begin to speculate but no radio contact or emergency signal points to the air crew possibly being out of it so rapid decompression could be the issue?
 
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blue underpants said:
There's a few good aircraft people on here, can you tell us if it's safe for a 24 year old aircraft to be flying?
All aircraft suffer from fatigue, flying hours will have an effect on this. Servicing is obviously a main factor and priority. Check operators fleet details for average age of aircraft, this said, which aircraft will you be allocated ?
 
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blue underpants said:
There's a few good aircraft people on here, can you tell us if it's safe for a 24 year old aircraft to be flying?
When they do a major service, they pretty well take them apart, inspect, and rebuild them, so the important bits should be perfectly safe, and not age dependent, unless they find a major fault, in which case they will replace if they can, and scrap if they can't.

I heard someone say earlier, that this one had a major service 2 years ago, and was due another, but in between they are regularly serviced anyway.

Its easy to speculate, but everything points to the crew being incapacitated in some way, due to the fact that there has been no distress call, the decent is quick, but its not unusually so, its straight, and the speed slowly decays from top speed to 400mph. If a cabin decompresses, they need to get from that height to below 10000 feet quickly to allow people to breath, as the oxygen only last a few minutes for passengers, longer for crew for obvious reasons. If they were descending to below 10000 feet, they would surely have turned away from The Alps if they could, and they were still headed into the highest part of The Alps. If they couldn't turn then something major has happened, but even though they are taught to communicate last, they would in 10 minutes have said something.

Horrible sad accident, and no need for TV to show how shattered the thing is either, what does that achieve ?
 
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I don't care what the stats say, flying always makes me a tad nervous. I hate not being in control and if something goes wrong, you've got too long to dwell on your impending death.

RIP those poor, poor people.
 
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blue underpants said:
There's a few good aircraft people on here, can you tell us if it's safe for a 24 year old aircraft to be flying?

Providing maintenance schedules are adhered to then yes, there's no issue whatsoever, although it's less about age in years and more to do with airframe hours. All aircraft will be fotted with a "fatigue meter" too which records the stresses placed on the airframe. I worked on VC10's in the RAF that had been flying since the 1960's and they had an excellent safety record.
 
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foetus said:
I don't care what the stats say, flying always makes me a tad nervous. I hate not being in control and if something goes wrong, you've got too long to dwell on your impending death.

RIP those poor, poor people.


I've never understood when people say they would love to be a pilot, i can not think of a more terrifying thing to go through every day. i know it is a well paid job but fuck me i cant think of anything worse.
 
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Aviation safety

Last year was the safest aviation year on record.

According to safety analysts Ascend, there was one fatal accident per 2.38 million flights in 2014, compared with every 1.91 million flights the year before.

Although these figures did not include the loss of the Malaysian airliner over Ukraine, where 298 people died, which was counted as a war loss, rather than an accident.
 
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Cheesy said:
blue underpants said:
There's a few good aircraft people on here, can you tell us if it's safe for a 24 year old aircraft to be flying?

Providing maintenance schedules are adhered to then yes, there's no issue whatsoever, although it's less about age in years and more to do with airframe hours. All aircraft will be fotted with a "fatigue meter" too which records the stresses placed on the airframe. I worked on VC10's in the RAF that had been flying since the 1960's and they had an excellent safety record.

VC10's were so over engineered they are like flying tanks they are arguable one of the greatest aircraft ever built.
 
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Some Lufthansa crews are refusing to fly aircraft Tonight stating ''personal reasons''
 
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2 of the passengers live in Manchester!
A Spanish woman and her son, they were flying back to Manc via Dusseldorf
 
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Should be a aviation policy. No passenger planes over 20 years old to fly.
 
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whp.blue said:
Cheesy said:
blue underpants said:
There's a few good aircraft people on here, can you tell us if it's safe for a 24 year old aircraft to be flying?

Providing maintenance schedules are adhered to then yes, there's no issue whatsoever, although it's less about age in years and more to do with airframe hours. All aircraft will be fotted with a "fatigue meter" too which records the stresses placed on the airframe. I worked on VC10's in the RAF that had been flying since the 1960's and they had an excellent safety record.

VC10's were so over engineered they are like flying tanks they are arguable one of the greatest aircraft ever built.

Queen of the Skies.
 
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BlueHammer85 said:
Should be a aviation policy. No passenger planes over 20 years old to fly.
Why, there is no reason for stupid knee jerk reactions, planes over 20 years are perfectly safe so long as they are properly serviced, and that's down to the company that owns them, and the manufacturer.
 
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blue underpants said:
16 exchange students from Haltern Germany on board, tragedy for such a small Town

small town, but birthplace of two german internationals, Benny Höwedes and Christoph Metzelder (also president of the local football club). Both deeply shocked
 
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BlueHammer85 said:
Should be a aviation policy. No passenger planes over 20 years old to fly.
I'd trust airline inspections over personal car inspections. Do you want to ban every car over 20years old? You are more likely to die in car accidents than airplane accident.
 
Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Cheesy said:
whp.blue said:
Cheesy said:
Providing maintenance schedules are adhered to then yes, there's no issue whatsoever, although it's less about age in years and more to do with airframe hours. All aircraft will be fotted with a "fatigue meter" too which records the stresses placed on the airframe. I worked on VC10's in the RAF that had been flying since the 1960's and they had an excellent safety record.

VC10's were so over engineered they are like flying tanks they are arguable one of the greatest aircraft ever built.

Queen of the Skies.
Always makes me wonder why our aircraft industry went down the pan and bits of airplane's are built all over the planet and bunged together by the French.
 

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