About This 'Redevelopement'

[DontLookBackInAnger]

Well the other issue is how long do you think, a, it will take to build and b, do you think we will lose capacity while we do it?

I said that parts of the ground will need to be sectioned off to allow building work to take place.. so yes we will lose capacity.

Your first point... about half a season.

Really you think it can be done that quickly, I was thinking much longer, but have no idea.

 

[Anonymous]

In the future, when we are winning things then I'm all for a 'redevelopment', don't get me wrong. But right now, we're going to look silly. Having less than 55,000 turn up in a 60,000 stadium.

Plus, the traffic will be fucking murder! ;)

Also the 'sold out' signs that have gone up this season are literally the day before a game, not like 2 weeks beforehand like it could do in the days of 32k M.Rd.

I'm 100% sure any expansion should take before 2018 WC bid. But we should not carry it out until 2016. Between now and then let's see if we can get a waiting list of 10k.

this. and also we need to put the away fans in the corner of the south stand/ colin bell in the mean time.

 

[The Fixer]

Sold out 9 times this season, chances are we will sell out at least 4 more times before the end of the season thats more than 1/2 the home games, our Avg right now is like 45,500 so we are doing pretty well if we can never fill it.

Okay, I'll rephrase. We don't always fill 48,000. But I dont see the need for an expansion. The best team doesn't always have to play in the biggest stadium.

If it's ok with you i'll go along with what our very successful billionaire owner decides to do. The big man says we need more seats we need more seats!

You see he didn't become mega successful making shite decisions!!

 

[Uber Blues]

Dont knock it!..

Our owners are prepared to put the club on a footing that will see us right for the next 50 or even a 100 years, and folk are moaning. We need to look further than the ends of our noses guys, something City have never quite managed in the past, mainly due to lack of funds, land ownership etc etc. The club will want to make City attractive to our support, thats to say keep our existing, bring back the folk that dont go every week, and encourage new support through favourable costings and added value for children and young adults. This is looking at our future in a big way, far beyond the ten year buiding and investment strategy. A good way to increase turn over and profit for the future is bums on seats, thats obvious. However in order to keep season ticket prices and matchday tickets competative a bigger capacity is needed, ten fans at a tenner is of course better than six fans at fifteen quid etc. Not to mention the other things that will be on offer around the stadium on match days as part of the overall day at the club. Bring it on i say, its going to be beyond our wildest dreams both in terms of stadia and other around "City Town" match day expieriences. We will fill any expansion on lots of occasions, and sometimes..well maybe not but to have and be ready is better than not to be prepared. Success on the field will grow our club big time, that and the huge investment our good owner the Sheikh is prepared to offer can only mean great times are ahead. I remember sitting in the Gene Kelly not so many years ago, and standing in the kippax as a boy in the 70s. I wont mention the bent corrugated iron that doubled as the gents toilets at the back of the kippax for years. Embrace the time and enjoy the ride...WE ARE THE LUCKIEST CLUB AND SUPPORTERS IN THE WORLD BAR NONE! I just hope i get the chance to say thank you to the powers that be one day, for i am truly greatfull! Now come on City lets get 4th spot. CTID.

 

[Blue Coop]

dont think we should increase capacity because it would be embarrassing when we never fill it

This. All this about having a 60'000 all-seater, when we don't fill 48'000.

48,000 at £20 Ticket

60,000 at £16 Ticket

Both the same, would the £4 drop bring in an extra 12k, not for me.

 

[Uber Blues]

Also the 'sold out' signs that have gone up this season are literally the day before a game, not like 2 weeks beforehand like it could do in the days of 32k M.Rd.

I'm 100% sure any expansion should take before 2018 WC bid. But we should not carry it out until 2016. Between now and then let's see if we can get a waiting list of 10k.

this. and also we need to put the away fans in the corner of the south stand/ colin bell in the mean time.

You suggest that we aim to have a 10k waiting list over a six year period before we do anything? HOW AMBITIOUS ARE YOU IN LIFE?! That's longer than the second world war lasted! Get real mate, were moving forward not standing still with lead boots on.

 

[badge]

when did this myth begin that a football ground has to be filled to capacity for every game?

 

[Uber Blues]

when did this myth begin that a football ground has to be filled to capacity for every game?

Exactly!.. see even the fickle 5 times European cup winners could'nt fill Painfield tonight.

Sometimes i sit and wonder..and other times i just sit!!!!

 

[Blue Coop]

when did this myth begin that a football ground has to be filled to capacity for every game?

Exactly!.. see even the fickle 5 times European cup winners could'nt fill Painfield tonight.

Sometimes i sit and wonder..and other times i just sit!!!!

yes but when did people extend stadiums to bigger capacties to see more blue seats in return on matchday.

 

[Uber Blues]

Exactly!.. see even the fickle 5 times European cup winners could'nt fill Painfield tonight.

Sometimes i sit and wonder..and other times i just sit!!!!

yes but when did people extend stadiums to bigger capacties to see more blue seats in return on matchday.

Mate, you need to show a little faith here. Rome was'nt built in a day, but someone had to lay the first brick. What you worrying about? If we extend to 60k and get 52k at first so what. Would you rather wait like the other guy for 3 leptons til the waiting list gets to 9999 then rejoice and launch the buiding plans? Do you think Richard Branson built a fooking airline thats out stripped the national carrier BA by buying one aircraft every three years. BELIEVE!

 

[PowderBlue]

The owners i'm guessing are planning for the future. Every time we're on tv or buy another star player we recruit new fans (kids in the playground at my daughters school this morning were playing out AJ's goal this morning - and i live near Blackpool) The owners want those new fans to spend money and therefore need seats for them to fill. They no doubt think big and long-term and they are working towards a plan - i wouldnt be surprised if they arent planning to redevelop the stadium in a massive way considering the way they see fantastic structures as a real status symbol. Look at the GP circuit as an example - they will be looking to make a statement, not pussy footing around like we do in this country.

Fear not City fans, although not getting fourth will slow things down i suspect.

 

[badge]

Exactly!.. see even the fickle 5 times European cup winners could'nt fill Painfield tonight.

Sometimes i sit and wonder..and other times i just sit!!!!

yes but when did people extend stadiums to bigger capacties to see more blue seats in return on matchday.

people hark on about maine road but, apart from games against un!ted and the odd fa cup qtr final, how often did we fill it? once we start winning things, 50,000 plus gates will become a regularity.

 

[MCFC13]

one minute yoyr complaining we won't fill the stadium and be embaressed then the next you moan about the traffic due to all the extra fans.

Next you'll be complaining when we start winning trophies because of the glory hunters.

Are you ever satisfied lol

 

[inbetween]

The main thing is getting it right on the pitch right now, everything else is long term plans for when we start to achieve the goals set. None of the expansion plans or anything will even begin to take shape for a few years, the revenue potential just isn't there.. Yet!

 

[oakiecokie]

Didn,t they all say that Arsenal would never fill their 60,000 every week.
OK,I accept that we need to win trophies and play nice attractive (sometimes) football,like the Gooners.
The old adage "don,t bite the hand that feeds you" springs to mind,with some fans moaning that we don,t yet need an increase in capacity.
45,500 is it this season to date (average) ?? 36 years of no trophies and we still attract that sort of gate !!!
Think big while we have a superb benefactor in The Sheikh !!!!!

 

[Citizen Green]

Didn,t they all say that Arsenal would never fill their 60,000 every week.
OK,I accept that we need to win trophies and play nice attractive (sometimes) football,like the Gooners.
The old adage "don,t bite the hand that feeds you" springs to mind,with some fans moaning that we don,t yet need an increase in capacity.
45,500 is it this season to date (average) ?? 36 years of no trophies and we still attract that sort of gate !!!
Think big while we have a superb benefactor in The Sheikh !!!!!

The thing is though why don't we just get the plans in place, then in about 2 seasons time during the summer (when i'm pretty sure we would of qualified for the Champions League) do all the work and get it up to 60,000. We would defo fill it the following season.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Some of you are talking as if the stadium is suddenly going to have a capacity of 60,000 next season. Any stadium expansion is years away yet. All the club are doing right now is feasibility studies, ie. finding out whether it's actually possible to extend it. There are no plans or designs set in stone and what have you. It's a LONG way off yet. By which point we hope to have a successful football team, and WILL sell out 60,000.

 

[Wheelsy]

dont think we should increase capacity because it would be embarrassing when we never fill it

I caught me a rag, he got a perdy mouth

Easily.

 

[Skashion]

yes but when did people extend stadiums to bigger capacties to see more blue seats in return on matchday.

people hark on about maine road but, apart from games against un!ted and the odd fa cup qtr final, how often did we fill it? once we start winning things, 50,000 plus gates will become a regularity.

We filled Maine Road pretty much every game at the end of its life. In our last two seasons in the Premier League we averaged over 34,000 (Capacity: 35,150). That's 96.7% full in 2000-1 and 98.3% full in the final season. When you factor in the likes of Fulham, Charlton, and Blackburn, who never sell out their allocations, and do the maths, that's a sell out nearly every game. That's definitely the way I remember it. I was and still am a Citycard holder and getting tickets to the big games back then was just impossible. I had to go to games like Fulham, Charlton, Birmingham and sit in the Gene Kelly. I just wonder what goes on in the minds of City fans who claim we didn't sell out Maine Road. So, we move to a new stadium and eleven thousand City fans just decide they're going to start going to matches? That happened because the demand was already there. That's the reason why we moved in the first place; our ground wasn't nearly big enough for us.

 

[Lindowman]

What we also have to remember is that " by the time the new stand goes up" the extra capacity could easily be driven by the new redevelopment around Coms which is projected to be 100,000 visitors per week.

If they only get half of that number per week I reckon an extra 12k of support is easily achieved.

Imo these people don't project increases in capacity if it aint there to get, they will have done the sums and checked similair models before reaching any decisions to extend.