Ade's Charge

[Chris in London]

I don't expect a further ban for Ade for three reasons.

First, the precedents - Chuckle got a fine (a piss poor one at that) for the Liverpool effort, and Henry got a warning - may have been fined also, but not a ban.

Second, the provocation - done to death already.

Third, van Persie and Chuckle (for Sunday's effort) weren't charged because our fans didn't react either time. United haven't been charged for failing to control their supporters (coin, knobhead etc) and neither were Arsenal. So if your fans riot and that gets a rival player banned, it gives fans - esp away fans - an incentive to go beserk at the drop of a hat. Your club doesn't get penalised, and you get a competitive advantage for your team (or at least a disadvantage for your rivals). That is a very dangerous precedent to set.

Expect a fine - maybe a hefty one - and expect a warning (maybe even a suspended ban to make sure he behaves at the Emirates) but don't expect a further immediate ban

Having said all that, when did the FA's disciplinary committee last make any sense?

 

[cityman14364]

we are talking common sense now so that doesnt include the F.A chuckle got banned when he did it, and has done it again last sunday and gets a warning? so how can ade be banned again,they have set a precedent now.. what ade did was no worse than chuckle did on derby day.. even though the rat faced twat tried to pretend to warm up. the f.a warned him so therefore we can presume ade will get a similar warning? then again like has been said, its the f.a after all

 

[johnmc]

I'd say part of the "deal" regarding the non appeal of the first incident was that the second would involve a small fine and a warning.

Far too much trouble for the fa to set a precedent here

 

[fat boy blue]

this is the reply i recieved from the FA , it say RVP has had a warning

Dear Tony



Thank you for your e-mail. The Football Association receives frequent correspondence on individual refereeing decisions across all levels of football as well as on the performance of referees in general. Every supporter will have an opinion on the game’s major talking points and we’re always interested to hear them. It's a revealing fact that for every piece of correspondence we have from supporters complaining of a bias to a particular club we have the same amount claiming a bias against that club.



There are set procedures in place for when The FA can take retrospective action in relation to incidents that have not been seen by the Match Officials at the time, as was the case recently with Emmanuel Adebayor. We can only bring additional charges in exceptional cases, for example, when a referee indicates in his/her match report that an incident went unnoticed, The FA can then be requested to review the incident. In contrast, if an incident was witnessed by the referee at the time, The FA generally has no power to take retrospective action, due to FIFA directives.



Whilst 100% consistency is impossible when human judgment is introduced into a situation, referees get the overwhelming majority of decisions correct. In fact they are arguably the most consistent people in the game making split-second decisions that will be analysed repeatedly by slow motion cameras and panels of football experts. The FIFA Laws of the Game stipulate that we cannot re-referee matches by issuing or upgrading cards on incidents that the referee has witnessed.



Supporters often compare incidents with others and ask why the same actions are not taken. This is simply due to no two incidents being the same. The Football Association takes its disciplinary procedures very seriously and judges each case on its merits.



The FA strongly condemns any form of offensive chanting and works closely with clubs, police and football partners such as Kick it Out in tackling this problem. The FA remain committed to making the game family friendly and call upon clubs and match day police to monitor and deal with these incidents accordingly.



Offensive chanting has no place in football. The FA’s policy is to encourage all clubs to work towards ridding the game of the small minority of supporters who try to ruin the experience of watching a game for the vast majority.

With regards to the Manchester City v Arsenal game, we have asked The Greater Manchester Police and the clubs to identify those supporters involved in any violent and aggravating behaviour. The FA would like to see anyone found guilty of such behaviour face action through the legal system and banning orders from football.

Stewards are trained to deal with racist and other incidents and they and the Police do what they can to deal with foul and abusive language by spectators. Football matches do tend to provoke all sorts of comments or chants from the crowd; some of these may go beyond what is considered to be acceptable. Dealing with this on a match day is a difficult task, but it is a criminal offence to shout racist abuse at a football match.



With regards to Robin van Persie’s goal celebration, having reviewed the incident and spoken with Greater Manchester Police and the Match Official, The FA have contacted Robin van Persie to remind the player of his responsibilities as a professional with regards to his future conduct. No further action will be taken.



We do appreciate all of the feedback we receive from supporters. This feedback is collated and used to build a picture of public opinion and is subsequently fed back internally within the organisation. Please rest assured your suggestions will form part of this feedback process.



Kind regards



The Football Association

 

[ExiledGooner]

cant see why he should be banned , a fine and a word in his ear is all that is needed .