Aguero banned for three games (updated)

[yeah whatever !!]

Gen question.

Without any prejudice, what are the possible outcomes from the hearing?

No hope and fuck all, maybe not in that order.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Not the vibe I'm getting from the thread at all.

Most are pissed because the media is selective who they go after, the FA are also selective and the ref is telling blatant lies. If there was any consistency most wouldn't give a shit!

Totally correct.

 

[mosssideblue]

Don't care what anyone says....it was not an elbow to the face, as Reid immediately tried to make it seem, but an arm. Reid's arm (fist) was to the right side of Kun's head, while Kun's forearm grazed the side of Reid's neck. Was it worse than the foul on Arsenal's Sanchez for their penalty at Watford? Absolutely not! Costa' s leg breaker on the keeper?

The whole "video referee" is a joke! It has become a political tool. It doesn't get rid of the bad elements in the game, it merely picks and chooses WHICH elements it will go after based on spineless referees, who dont act on what they see or don't see what they should have seen. It will be interesting to see what happens to Marriner, if anything, after this. I think it is absolutely stone cold, dead on, that he is cheating here.

The other MAIN problem will things like this is not that they think they are able to referee the game after it has been played by using video, it is that they are not using this technology to make the game safer by eradicating the leg breaker or the career render, but the FA has started to be REACTIVE TO THE MEDIA. Games are played in front of dozens of 4K cameras, with super-slo-mo from every direction, and then dissected by ex-players with favorite teams and agendas (most of whom played for Liverpool or Man Utd!), then written about in the papers and on the web (with suitably chosen freeze frames from video to magnify their point) BEFORE the people at the FA have even finished their weekend round of prawn sandwiches and champagne!

The entire PROCESS is flawed...and what is happening here is just another heaping helping of evidence.

The FA should simply come out and say that they are going to crack down on ALL violent action, whether seen, not seen, dealt with, not dealt with, and be done with it. There will be a dozen players banned the first week, and some players (Fellaini??) will miss about 6-10 games a season, but at least it will not be down to the whims of the bent referees and the media onslaught that occurs BEFORE the FA makes their "decision."

Complete joke, from soup to nuts!

It was his arm because his elbow missed. The intent was clearly there and that is what counts

 

[Gunnerblue9320]

No idea what kun's disciplinary record is like.
But I've watched it many times and looks bad from some angles and not others.

Was their intent? Maybe
Did it connect? No.

Hopefully this will be just a fine and a severe reprimand or worse case ban reduced to 1 game.

As for the Ref I am really disappointed.

But of a joke standing 10feet away if that

 

[TCIB]

I don't have any issue with your view on Mariner, but if Kun hadn't done it, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Kun is solely to blame and I cannot see how anyone can defend him

This is the long and short of it tbh, I am sure it is inconsistent but we can only look to ourselves and how we act.

Don't care what anyone says....it was not an elbow to the face, as Reid immediately tried to make it seem, but an arm. Reid's arm (fist) was to the right side of Kun's head, while Kun's forearm grazed the side of Reid's neck. Was it worse than the foul on Arsenal's Sanchez for their penalty at Watford? Absolutely not! Costa' s leg breaker on the keeper?

The whole "video referee" is a joke! It has become a political tool. It doesn't get rid of the bad elements in the game, it merely picks and chooses WHICH elements it will go after based on spineless referees, who dont act on what they see or don't see what they should have seen. It will be interesting to see what happens to Marriner, if anything, after this. I think it is absolutely stone cold, dead on, that he is cheating here.

The other MAIN problem will things like this is not that they think they are able to referee the game after it has been played by using video, it is that they are not using this technology to make the game safer by eradicating the leg breaker or the career render, but the FA has started to be REACTIVE TO THE MEDIA. Games are played in front of dozens of 4K cameras, with super-slo-mo from every direction, and then dissected by ex-players with favorite teams and agendas (most of whom played for Liverpool or Man Utd!), then written about in the papers and on the web (with suitably chosen freeze frames from video to magnify their point) BEFORE the people at the FA have even finished their weekend round of prawn sandwiches and champagne!

The entire PROCESS is flawed...and what is happening here is just another heaping helping of evidence.

The FA should simply come out and say that they are going to crack down on ALL violent action, whether seen, not seen, dealt with, not dealt with, and be done with it. There will be a dozen players banned the first week, and some players (Fellaini??) will miss about 6-10 games a season, but at least it will not be down to the whims of the bent referees and the media onslaught that occurs BEFORE the FA makes their "decision."

Complete joke, from soup to nuts!

I think they look at the intent, not the result, not sure on that but i think that is their criteria.

 

[Blue Mooner]

I agree with this, they need to be more consistent, but there's a possibility the ref would have put in his report that he saw it and deemed it not a foul at the time. Once the ref states he saw the incident the FA can't do fuck all.

And this is precisely why the whole thing is bent. The ref did or didn't see it is precisely how they can punish us retrospectively and not the rags - it's their get out of jail free card and they can use it however they see fit. This is how they can gerrymander the whole system to suit their needs.

 

[acess87]

Is it possible to argue that the Ref has seen it? TV pictures are proof he has seen it.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I have no problem with the charge as I think it was intentional but the ref should be seeing that. At least he wasn't sent off in the game though as that could have made a difference.

Aguero missing the Derby is a big blow but we have other players who can fill in and I'm sure Pep will have something up his sleeve for this one.

He may have missed it anyway.

 

[windie]

When we beat them it will be a thousand times sweeter. If you give the biased media a crumb they will call it a loaf

 

[TCIB]

This place will be fun when bog brush chins someone and gets away with it. Half the worlds collective rage will be compressed into that one thread hehe.