Aguero >>> Tevez

[Aussie!]

Im getting sick of retarded threads like this. I dont care if you are Agueros personal trainer. The FACT is, he could have just bagged 100 goals in 20 games in La Liga, that doesnt make him an automatic success in the PL. Our league, is the toughest in the world, and to suggest he will outperform our best player for decades is ridiculous. IF he does, great, but only time will prove that to be true...

you should read a bit better what i wrote :

"aguero is more useful for the way mancini want play"

which is the part that was not clear ?

Sorry but its not possible to judge how 'useful' he will be until he actually plays an actual premier league game.

Anything other than that is just heresay, personal opinions, etc..

 

[malg]

Bit too early to make comparisons. The pundits will do it, but we all know what a bunch of wankers they are (mind you, every one that I've heard has positively drooled over Aguero). I firmly believe we can only compare them once Aguero pulls on the City shirt and we see how he fares with his new team mates and a new league. Tevez has been awesome for us, it's a bit of a shame that he may leave under a cloud - oh, and he's a greedy sod!

I'd like to see how they'd get on in starting for us. Argentina may thank us in the long term.....

 

[Aussie!]

Bit too early to make comparisons. The pundits will do it, but we all know what a bunch of wankers they are (mind you, every one that I've heard has positively drooled over Aguero). I firmly believe we can only compare them once Aguero pulls on the City shirt and we see how he fares with his new team mates and a new league. Tevez has been awesome for us, it's a bit of a shame that he may leave under a cloud - oh, and he's a greedy sod!

I'd like to see how they'd get on in starting for us. Argentina may thank us in the long term.....

Yourre right and 99% of the guys here share the same belief (in that we cant start making comparisons or how good he will be)

If its true that he is leaving for family reasons, then thats legit, and thats fine. whatever.
The greedy' card- kind of falls flat on its face if his moving to Corinthians where he will be paid significantly less.

 

[Mancio]

Im getting sick of retarded threads like this. I dont care if you are Agueros personal trainer. The FACT is, he could have just bagged 100 goals in 20 games in La Liga, that doesnt make him an automatic success in the PL. Our league, is the toughest in the world, and to suggest he will outperform our best player for decades is ridiculous. IF he does, great, but only time will prove that to be true...

you should read a bit better what i wrote :

"aguero is more useful for the way mancini want play"

which is the part that was not clear ?

Sorry but its not possible to judge how 'useful' he will be until he actually plays an actual premier league game.

Anything other than that is just heresay, personal opinions, etc..

English non being my first language maybe i dont know what the word ""useful"" really mean.

what i was trying to say is that the 2 players are different :

tevez play coming back to get the ball

aguero play on the line of the last defender and push forward without the ball , forcing the opponents defensive line to sit deep

 

[Maintainin]

you should read a bit better what i wrote :

"aguero is more useful for the way mancini want play"

which is the part that was not clear ?

Sorry but its not possible to judge how 'useful' he will be until he actually plays an actual premier league game.

Anything other than that is just heresay, personal opinions, etc..

English non being my first language maybe i dont know what the word ""useful"" really mean.

what i was trying to say is that the 2 players are different :

tevez play coming back to get the ball

aguero play on the line of the last defender and push forward without the ball , forcing the opponents defensive line to sit deep

...if i'm not losing you in translation, are you simply sayin Carlos trecks back and Kun is a modern day Lineker ? ! ?

 

[forevermancity]

Im getting sick of retarded threads like this. I dont care if you are Agueros personal trainer. The FACT is, he could have just bagged 100 goals in 20 games in La Liga, that doesnt make him an automatic success in the PL. Our league, is the toughest in the world, and to suggest he will outperform our best player for decades is ridiculous. IF he does, great, but only time will prove that to be true...

you should read a bit better what i wrote :

"aguero is more useful for the way mancini want play"which is the part that was not clear ?

so was boateng.......

 

[sbm]

Sorry but its not possible to judge how 'useful' he will be until he actually plays an actual premier league game.

Anything other than that is just heresay, personal opinions, etc..

English non being my first language maybe i dont know what the word ""useful"" really mean.

what i was trying to say is that the 2 players are different :

tevez play coming back to get the ball

aguero play on the line of the last defender and push forward without the ball , forcing the opponents defensive line to sit deep

...if i'm not losing you in translation, are you simply sayin Carlos trecks back and Kun is a modern day Lineker ? ! ?

Not getting at you personally Maintainin but there are too many City fans who are obsessed with "tracking back".

Mancini once said of Tevez, something along the lines of: "He plays like we did when we were kids playing in the garden". Mancini meant this as a tribute to the fact that he never gives up and always wants to be involved. The problem is that this endearing feature - which often amounts to chasing relentlessly after the ball - can become a limitation.

Last September, Sam Allardyce got a 1:1 draw with Blackburn to Eastlands. Last March, after the Reading game on ESPN, Allardyce explained how. The gist was this:

"City play possession football. But they are (often / normally) set up with Carlos Tevez upfront. But he does not really play / stay upfront. As a result, they have to play a lot of sideways passes to make their way upfield and they hope to create scoring chances with little passes through opposing defences. But if teams are given the time to get 9 men behind the ball, it is extremely difficult to break them down."

This was precisely City's major problem last season, certainly when Tevez operated as a lone striker. Tracking back is not always a virtue.<br /><br />-- Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:17 am --<br /><br />

Sorry but its not possible to judge how 'useful' he will be until he actually plays an actual premier league game.

Anything other than that is just heresay, personal opinions, etc..

English non being my first language maybe i dont know what the word ""useful"" really mean.

what i was trying to say is that the 2 players are different :

tevez play coming back to get the ball

aguero play on the line of the last defender and push forward without the ball , forcing the opponents defensive line to sit deep

...if i'm not losing you in translation, are you simply sayin Carlos trecks back and Kun is a modern day Lineker ? ! ?

Not getting at you personally Maintainin but there are too many City fans who are obsessed with "tracking back".

Mancini once said of Tevez, something along the lines of: "He plays like we did when we were kids playing in the garden". Mancini meant this as a tribute to the fact that he never gives up and always wants to be involved. The problem is that this endearing feature - which often amounts to chasing relentlessly after the ball - can become a limitation.

Last September, Sam Allardyce got a 1:1 draw with Blackburn to Eastlands. Last March, after the Reading game on ESPN, Allardyce explained how. The gist was this:

"City play possession football. But they are (often / normally) set up with Carlos Tevez upfront. But he does not really play / stay upfront. As a result, they have to play a lot of sideways passes to make their way upfield and they hope to create scoring chances with little passes through opposing defences. But if teams are given the time to get 9 men behind the ball, it is extremely difficult to break them down."

This was precisely City's major problem last season, certainly when Tevez operated as a lone striker. Tracking back is not always a virtue.

 

[bringer678]

Does Aguero work hard like Tevez?

 

[Corky]

Wait and see, Dzeko, Castillo and Jo came with big reputations.

 

[spacecadet]

Carlos has scored 52 goals in 81 games for City- If Kun beats that he will become immortal!

 

[Maintainin]

English non being my first language maybe i dont know what the word ""useful"" really mean.

what i was trying to say is that the 2 players are different :

tevez play coming back to get the ball

aguero play on the line of the last defender and push forward without the ball , forcing the opponents defensive line to sit deep

...if i'm not losing you in translation, are you simply sayin Carlos trecks back and Kun is a modern day Lineker ? ! ?

Not getting at you personally Maintainin but there are too many City fans who are obsessed with "tracking back".

Mancini once said of Tevez, something along the lines of: "He plays like we did when we were kids playing in the garden". Mancini meant this as a tribute to the fact that he never gives up and always wants to be involved. The problem is that this endearing feature - which often amounts to chasing relentlessly after the ball - can become a limitation.

...no probz sbm, i were simply tryin to make sense of wot Mancio were tryin to put across in ref' to the pair bein different.

Bobby is correct in wot he said of Carlos n' yes you are rite about this endearing feature and how it should basically be the norm.

 

[lee-mcfc]

they are 2 great players.

but aguero is much more useful in the way Mancini play .

aguero can give to the team the depth and the pace that Tevez can not give.

Why make comparisons already ffs?

Tevez has played in this league for a long time now , Aguero hasn't.

Aguero has a LOT to do to fill Tevez's boots as he has been world class player for us(on pitch)

 

[inGavious]

wouldnt have said Tevez was slow ... maybe not a sprinter, but an excellent dribbler at speed.

 

[bluenova]

Tevez has had two brilliant seasons for us - sometimes dragging the entire team into the game, scoring consistently throughout, and scoring some stunning goals. He has though had it lucky, in that he's been (deservedly) the first name on the team sheet, and the focal point of our attacking play, plus main penalty taker. He hasn't had any consistent competition, which has allowed him more opportunity than he's had before in English football.

I'm not too worried if he's replaced, although I wouldn't guarantee anyone will get as many goals. I suspect overall, we will score as many, if not more, but that they will be spread out between a few players - which, ultimately, will be better for the team.


ps. Interestingly, in career goals/game they are almost identical (Tevez very slightly ahead if you don't count International, Aguero ahead if you do).

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Silly thing to say Mancio but that's not stopped you before. ;-)

Tevez has carried us single-handedly at times plus his ability to drop deep causes chaos in opposition defences and creates opportunities for others. I'd see Aguero as more of a pure striker. But maybe that's what we need as too often Tevez, by dropping deep or going wide, hasn't been in the danger area.

 

[lostgalaxy]

The best thing about Aguero is he will play well with Balotelli.

Tevez and Balotelli never got along well. They were so similar in character.

Mancini knows about attacking too.

He now has 4 different striker in Aguero, Balotelli, Dzeko and Guideti who, given time, will compliment each other.

I can see:

Dzeko + Aguero

Aguero + Balotelli

Balotelli + Guideti

Guideti + Dzeko

as options.

 

[AustinBlue]

they are 2 great players.

but aguero is much more useful in the way Mancini play .

aguero can give to the team the depth and the pace that Tevez can not give.

Dont see how you can make such a claim - give him 12 months and we will see - simple fact is it is going to be almost impossible for Aguero to score as may goals as Tevez and when Tevez came to us he was already familiar and experienced in the prem lleague - it could take Aguero 6 months to settle in

Take the penalties away from Tevez, and Tevez's contribution wasn't that overwhelming. I like Tevez, but he was not that prolific a goalscorer.

 

[mxpx]

they are 2 great players.

but aguero is much more useful in the way Mancini play .

aguero can give to the team the depth and the pace that Tevez can not give.

Ridiculous statement, how has Tevez not given the team depth and pace since he has been at City? I think Aguero will do very well for us however the fact Tevez is going doesnt mean his talent reduces, I hate that attitude!

 

[leighton]

Tevez since he came to us has been 1 of the best strikers in the league. Goals in 2 seasons must be 50 + that is something else. Tevez would be classed as a World Class player and wouldnt look out of place in any team. If he stays we will have some great Strikers to pick from. Tevez will always be the first name on any managers team list because of what he offers to the team work rate goals that is hard to replace.

As for Aguero it will take him time to get used to playing in a much more harder league than the Spainish league. I would love Tevez to stay on for this season and help Aguero settle into the team because Aguero could learn a hell of a lot of things from the way Tevez plays the game. It will be interesting to see how everything works out if both stay at the club for the season. As for the claim that Aguero is better than Tevez all we can do is wait and see. I would imagine if Tevez was playing in the Spanish league he would score goals for fun against some of the teams there. The Spanish league is like the SPL with 2 clubs running away from the rest.

 

[Wiggum22]

Gutted that Aguero is signing for you lot, a gem of a player who will be an undoubted smash in our league.
Alos don't think that Tevez is going anywhere this year.