Maintainin
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Wonder what made him earl the objects throne, need to regally reign it in before he's seen as a royal pain.
Dutch rags. Nuff said.
Behave mate, without Ajax there would be no Cruyff and without Cruyff there would be no Pep.
Right so their fans are like the rags I guess.Both can be mostly true and it is mostly true Ajax fans are totally full of themselves smarmy bastards very much like the rags, they're the Dutch rags and have an air of supremacy to them they feel like they're a master race compared to other teams.
I remember a few years back one week to go they were 3 points clear and pathetically decided to have a title winning party a week early, what was funny as fuck is they lost the title due to losing against a struggling team they'd never ever lost to before in about 30 games, so they had a week long title winning party and all were singing throughout that final game how they've already won the league, then after missing loads of chances the other team got a jammy goal and the fans all went silent, they just couldn't score Ajax so hilariously PSV ended up winning the league fucking karma bigtime against the Dutch rags.
So @Chak19 although you're partly right the behave part of your comment doesn't belong here it's why I crossed it out, cos if the above example isn't a very rag-ish thing to do then I honestly don't know what is. It's far from their first time doing these parties either their entitlement is a disgrace Reynolds & Michels & Cruyff would be spinning in their graves, they're every bit as bad as the rags in that sense they're domestically at least extremely sore losers. Ajax's club philosophy itself should teach their fans to be more reserved but they lack any class whatsoever, as shown by the pitch invasion that started this thread and their early title party's which they actually do all the time.
Football would not be as beautiful without them there's a truth to that but that doesn't mean anything really, you could just as easily also give the rags major credit for their youth policy post WWII, as that changed a lot of perceptions in world football about trusting youths... This doesn't change the fact that the rags and their fans are absolute scum and so are Ajax fans.
The attitude that they'd be no Cruyff or Pep without Ajax shouldn't be held as highly in football when they act so disgracefully, we could just as easily say that Michels was known to be partly inspired by Busby philosophy on scouting kids early, allowing him to assemble the best talent in Holland while mostly being inspired by the playing style Mr Ajax himself Jack Reynolds. In that sense there's an argument to be made that both Busby and Reynolds former Manchester City employees, got their early (Reynolds) or most important football education (Busby) before management right here, while Reynolds went on to inspire Michels who inspired Cruyff who inspired Pep who inspired us ever single day.
Does this mean we can take full credit for Ajax origins from Reynolds/Michel's/Cruyff or the Barca philosophy post Cruyff who later inspired Pep? No I don't think it does and nor does it mean there'd actually be no Ajax without Manchester City either.
We can say things have maybe come full circle as the original philosopher came from here and a disciple generations later has returned but we cannot take credit for it, despite the fact Reynolds pretty much built Ajax from the ground up and Dutch football as we know it learned from him, his philosophy left an indelible mark on football that won't ever be forgotten this after learning his trade at City as a kid and possibly even being a fan.
Just because Ajax inspired Pep's philosophy doesn't give them some kind of divine right to be held up as this and that, nor does it give their fans the right to act like complete bastards and very rag like and most Ajax fans really are like that most of the time.