Al Hilal (N) | CWC | Post Match Thread

Gareth Barry Conlon said:
Evey year we go out early in the league Cup I point out its a blessing. Those early games are a good opportunity to give a few fringe players a run out. But you are best going out before the semi's. We've done the same here and I'm good with it.

Get some rest.

Get rid of the deadwood in the squad.

No community shield as well is a bonus so next up Wolves away.
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You mean the league cup that we won 5 times out of 6?
 
Lavinda Past said:
The Board have had it very easy since Pep arrived. They are businessmen. Very wealthy businessmen, who took over a club (Manchester City Football Club) that was in a reasonable financial state and built a business empire (City Group) on those good foundations.

Our most successful period of squad development (as opposed to winning trophies) was - in my opinion - before the arrival of Bergiristain and Soriano or Pep... when Gary Cook was responsible for signings.

Our Board have had it easy on the pitch... How good they are at running the football side of the business under real pressure, we have yet to find out.
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I don't know how long you have been following City, not that it matters, but City were far from 'in a reasonable financial state' when Mansour took over. At the time of the takeover John Wardle was bankrolling Shinawatra to the tune of millions. Shinawatra couldn't pay the wages or bills, City were within days of going under if it had not been for Wardle, who maybe stuck around and bankrolled Shinawatra as he knew the sheikh would turn City around and being a true blue that was what he wanted. Why he did it I have no idea as it had already cost him a fair chunk when he was chairman.. Cooke was here when we made very significant signings but they were not the winning machine we have been since Pep arrived, which is what squads are measured by. I think the board is the least of our worries.
 
bluemanchester said:
I don't know how long you have been following City, not that it matters, but City were far from 'in a reasonable financial state' when Mansour took over. At the time of the takeover John Wardle was bankrolling Shinawatra to the tune of millions. Shinawatra couldn't pay the wages or bills, City were within days of going under if it had not been for Wardle, who maybe stuck around and bankrolled Shinawatra as he knew the sheikh would turn City around and being a true blue that was what he wanted. Why he did it I have no idea as it had already cost him a fair chunk when he was chairman.. Cooke was here when we made very significant signings but they were not the winning machine we have been since Pep arrived, which is what squads are measured by. I think the board is the least of our worries.
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We weren't going to go under. There was too much potential for the future in terms of development of the area etc. Exactly what Mansour and Co were looking for, and have since done.

If you honestly think recruitment and squad development under Bergiristain has been better than under Gary Cook, then we're never going to see eye to eye!
 
SWPISHOME said:
Reading alot of other posters comments on here regarding Khusanov and looks like 90% are in agreement that the lad should be starting games.

Dias has fallen off a cliff massively, Akanji looks so leggy in his displays, Nunes shouldn't be playing at right back either although credit were it's due to him he's stepped in and tried to help the team.

Personally there's absolutely no way Dias and Akanji is a better proposal at centre back than Khusanov right now. It's time to play Khusanov and Gvardiol at centre back going forward.
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i wouldn´t mind trying that.
 
warringtonblue said:
I agree with the majority of what you said but we dominated the game in the first half with Gundo and Bernardo, and these days, 30 isn't particularly old. Modrich is only just leaving Madrid at 38 or 39. If we had put away our chance it would have been a good first half
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Modric has been playing in a 3 team league for the last 6/7 years at such a slow pace even I could cope I reckon, that’s why KDB has gone you can’t do it past around 33/34 without losing out to pace on our league, great as a sub for 20 mins at the end.
 
DavidWhitesUnderpants said:
Just saw the result an hour ago. Wow. 6 shots on target and 4 goals. Fuck me. Imagine my surprise when I saw that stat !

Oh well. It is what it is. Depressing to see though after all our new signings. Same old same old shit at the back I guess. Why the fuck has that never been addressed ?
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No worries one of their shots on target happened in the 118 minutes of the game and Eddy managed to save that one, so we'll done to him.
 
Lavinda Past said:
We weren't going to go under. There was too much potential for the future in terms of development of the area etc. Exactly what Mansour and Co were looking for, and have since done.

If you honestly think recruitment and squad development under Bergiristain has been better than under Gary Cook, then we're never going to see eye to eye!
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At the time we were short of cash and came very close to being unable to pay the bills.
 
KS55 said:
At the time we were short of cash and came very close to being unable to pay the bills.
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I never thought it would happen. The club was always going to be bought by someone. It just happened that Mansour saw Manchester as a better investment than Newcastle.
If it hadn't been Mansour, it would have been someone else. We may well have been in league one or two by now, but we'd still be in business.
We got lucky.
 
SWPISHOME said:
Personally I find what happened at the Club World Cup concerning, We as fans might have seen the games as glorified friendlies although it wasn't the case for Pep and the players which seen us been knocked out by Al-Hilal and the manner of the defeat didn't help either.

Khaldoon clearly stated in his end of season interview that he wants us to go and win this competition, Plus it would have earned the club massive money in the process.

The January signings have barely got a kick since they've joined, Surely they all should have got more minutes yet we continued to see players playing regularly that's been bang out of form for a long period of time on top of the "old guard" continuing to play. You'd think that they'd be playing less if Pep wasn't planning to have them around.

In the games against Juventus and Al-Hilal we continued to get cut open on the counter attack with is being very high and naive defensively and that is worrying because it was a common theme throughout last season.

Personally I reckon it's a longer road back than people think, At the end of the day it's a results business and I'm not so sure Khaldoon will be so nice if this continues into next season.

Big season for this for Pep and some of the players.
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Good post mate and I honestly don't think Pep knows his strongest team at present due to the squad size, i got that impression last season as well especially after the new players arrived in Jan. Wouldn't be at all surprised if Gundo, Bernardo start against Wolves with our bench looking ridiculously strong
 
Lavinda Past said:
I never thought it would happen. The club was always going to be bought by someone. It just happened that Mansour saw Manchester as a better investment than Newcastle.
If it hadn't been Mansour, it would have been someone else. We may well have been in league one or two by now, but we'd still be in business.
We got lucky.
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You’re just a natural optimist.
 
Lavinda Past said:
I never thought it would happen. The club was always going to be bought by someone. It just happened that Mansour saw Manchester as a better investment than Newcastle.
If it hadn't been Mansour, it would have been someone else. We may well have been in league one or two by now, but we'd still be in business.
We got lucky.
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Bill Kenright at Everton refused to engage with Amanda Staveley when HRH Sheik Mansour MAHTBCT was looking to buy a football club.
 
Dr Jacoby said:
Having watched some of the highlights, it’s very clear that the problems from last year still remain.

We play a ridiculously high line without having any exceptionally quick defenders (Khusanov the possible exception but he’s not exactly prime Walker) to counter the counter and as a result most teams can fashion at least two or three clear cut goal scoring opportunities against us.

I can’t remember when I was last confident we’d keep a clean sheet - and that includes so-called ‘easy’ games.
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their 2nd goal is a disaster. Basically from the moment reijnders decides to make an extremely irresponsible, weak header for no reason you could see the goal coming
 
bluemanchester said:
I don't know how long you have been following City, not that it matters, but City were far from 'in a reasonable financial state' when Mansour took over. At the time of the takeover John Wardle was bankrolling Shinawatra to the tune of millions. Shinawatra couldn't pay the wages or bills, City were within days of going under if it had not been for Wardle, who maybe stuck around and bankrolled Shinawatra as he knew the sheikh would turn City around and being a true blue that was what he wanted. Why he did it I have no idea as it had already cost him a fair chunk when he was chairman.. Cooke was here when we made very significant signings but they were not the winning machine we have been since Pep arrived, which is what squads are measured by. I think the board is the least of our worries.
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Just ignore Lavinda.

He's the most miserable **** on this site and that's saying something.
 
Lavinda Past said:
That's about 4 days worth of interest on Sheikh Mansour's savings account.

I don't think anyone at the club is going to starve... ;-)
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Might not, but it’s the equivalent of 3 full stadium CL knockout games! (The ones we failed to make!) All money is useful.
Fordyboy46 said:
Good post mate and I honestly don't think Pep knows his strongest team at present due to the squad size, i got that impression last season as well especially after the new players arrived in Jan. Wouldn't be at all surprised if Gundo, Bernardo start against Wolves with our bench looking ridiculously strong
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Fuck me I hope not.
 
Lavinda Past said:
The Board have had it very easy since Pep arrived. They are businessmen. Very wealthy businessmen, who took over a club (Manchester City Football Club) that was in a reasonable financial state and built a business empire (City Group) on those good foundations.

Our most successful period of squad development (as opposed to winning trophies) was - in my opinion - before the arrival of Bergiristain and Soriano or Pep... when Gary Cook was responsible for signings.

Our Board have had it easy on the pitch... How good they are at running the football side of the business under real pressure, we have yet to find out.
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Eh??? We were in huge financial trouble when they took over hence the UEFA charges (which we overcame but we had no spare cash) & since then, the 115 charges demonstrate that we were struggling - albeit they have been manufactured too to make it look as if we cheated when actually, we were just unable to spend

Only since 2018 have we been “flush”

Why are some “City fans” always so critical???
 
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