Alberto Moleiro

[LongsightM13]

Gundogan is ethnically Turkish but he 100% came through the German system. German academies and German clubs. At least two before Ilkay arrived here
Name one single player from the Turkish league who has succeeded ling term in the Premier League?
The ghost of Tugay at Blackburn maybe? Though even there he was more of a local cult hero and 60mins player than a real impact
As ever its always about talent and transferrability of skills and adapability than ethnicity. But you seem intent on a culture war

And nobody used the word ‘they’ in the perjorative sense like you are implying and misrepresenting
At least be honest in your bullshit

 

[Haaland94]

Gundogan is ethnically Turkish but he 100% came through the German system. German academies and German clubs. At least two before Ilkay arrived here
Name one single player from the Turkish league who has succeeded long term in the Premier League?
The ghost of Tugay at Blackburn maybe? Though even there he was more of a local cult hero and 60mins player than a real impact
As ever its always about talent and transferrability of skills and adapability than ethnicity. But you seem intent on a culture war

This is my point, exactly. Why does it matter? What is it about the Turkish league, in your opinion, that makes the said players historically not successful in the Premier League? For me, absolutely nothing. Coincidence. Therefore, there is absolutely no reason not to sign someone from the Turkish League/Turkish. Guler would have been immense for us, for example. I don't remember if you were the person who implied not to sign Turkish/Turkish league players, but you are defending this point now. Finally, I am the one intent on culture war? I am the one saying to sign players from every country, no matter their background, as long as they are good enough. I am calling out discriminatory bullshit. It's like saying Vinicius is intent on a culture war because he called out racism in La Liga.