Alessio cerci

I've probably said it already, and no doubt others too, but if we are buying potential don't bother - use Weiss, or stick with SWP.

This will be a waste of money. If we spend £5m on this guy, then why didn't we put it towards Sanchez? Can only think this story is wrong. Doesn't fit in with what we said we were going to do...buy quality. I understand that we might need numbers, but that argument doesn't make sense if your loaning out a player in the same position i.e Weiss to Espanyol (was talked about)
 
mancityscot said:
it might be bullshit but italian media are reporting it as imminent and virtually a done deal.
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The same media that was reporting we virtually had Sanchez in the bag a few weeks ago.....

hhhhmmmm

Only the other week we were hijacking a deal for a young lad at Genoa from under the noses of Milan....and that didnt happen either.

Chill folks....

Theres 2 months left of this yet!
 
Dale Blue said:
mancityscot said:
it might be bullshit but italian media are reporting it as imminent and virtually a done deal.
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The same media that was reporting we virtually had Sanchez in the bag a few weeks ago.....

hhhhmmmm

Only the other week we were hijacking a deal for a young lad at Genoa from under the noses of Milan....and that didnt happen either.

Chill folks....

Theres 2 months left of this yet!
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Pre-season starts soon enough - that will be a diversion. And Copa America
 
Thank god some common sense is creeping into this discussion. I will back anyone we sign to the hilt but if something looks shit call it how it is.

In no way would this be a good signing for us the level we are at now is so high. We want to win a title and make it out of the group stages of champions league. We are looking at a serious step up in the calibre of player required.

I have not doubt at all this lad does not fall into that category.

I am hopeful this is bullshit. Why make investment commitments approaching £1 billion then stop at the finishing line. I can't see it.
 
alera said:
Thank god some common sense is creeping into this discussion. I will back anyone we sign to the hilt but if something looks shit call it how it is.

In no way would this be a good signing for us the level we are at now is so high. We want to win a title and make it out of the group stages of champions league. We are looking at a serious step up in the calibre of player required.

I have not doubt at all this lad does not fall into that category.

I am hopeful this is bullshit. Why make investment commitments approaching £1 billion then stop at the finishing line. I can't see it.
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good question. why dont you try to ask it to the ones unable to sell the deadwood ?
 
Agree with above, we are now in phase 2 which can only mean title. But with CL to contend with we are in completely unchartered waters. We have to improve on last season and play top sides in Europe, get drawn into CC and FA cup around Christmas time. We do not need squad players we need top class players who will put the likes of Silva Tevez etc on the Bench. Then we might have a chance. (And by putting Tevez and Silva on the bench it means to rest them and keep them fresh for Jan to May). With our current squad we can't do that. This lad looks OK but nothing better than SWP and we lose a homegrown player out of the squad. :-(
 
Weiss all day over this guy nearly 24 no caps for a shite italian team.
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Isn't Weiss off to Rangers again, sure I have read someat somewhere going back on loan. (Fucking losing it I tell ye).
 
Mancini won't send Weiss back to Rangers as the Scottish league is piss poor and Mancini wants to loan Weiss to Spain (Espanyol) to continue his development. That said, didn't stop the club trying to include Weiss in a deal for Sanchez, which Weiss refused. If we need numbers and depth, I don't see why Weiss can't be an option next season. I'm not an expert on Cerci as I doubt many are as he actually hasn't played that much first team football at the top level in Italy but Weiss has Champions League experience, World Cup experience (he was better than "30m rated" Hamsik at the 2010 WC), and has improved if not to the "new Ronaldo" levels some City fans labelled him. He'd continue to improve around better players too and IMO is about equal to Albrighton who some have clamoured for us to buy.
 
I know plenty about him.He was one of the top prospects in Italy coming through the settore giovanilli at Roma-injuries set him back plus the typical attitude of Italian coaches not to trust young players.

Roma played him as a right winger although he is left footed.I think he is best playing off a target man on the left side.If he plays for a manager who is intelligent enough to play him to his strengths I think he could go on and fulfil his teenage promise.Towards the end of the Italian season people started to take more notice of him.I think it was a case of someone actually giving him the opportunity and the fact he remained injury free that his real potential started to show.
 
LoveCity said:
Mancini won't send Weiss back to Rangers as the Scottish league is piss poor and Mancini wants to loan Weiss to Spain (Espanyol) to continue his development. That said, didn't stop the club trying to include Weiss in a deal for Sanchez, which Weiss refused. If we need numbers and depth, I don't see why Weiss can't be an option next season.
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One of very few players who gets you out of your seat every time he receives the ball. But we have to weigh up his usefulness for what could be a handful of games against his long term development. If SWP goes, I'd keep Weiss as an alternative to AJ, and for the Cups.
 
Mancini knows more about football than the combined knowledge of every freak on this forum. To the power of 100.
The arrogance of some posters to presume to know better is as hilarious as it is pitiful and depressing.
By the way, if Weiss was Italian he would be nowhere near that squad either.
He played last season for both a club and a nation that would be bottom half in the Championship, so stop bullshitting that he is our saviour.
 
didnt really want to make a new thread so thought id pop this in here... jus watched citys season review on dvd. i cudnt beleive the team that started/played the first half of the season!

MILNER on the left works! liverpool, blackpool etc. he played really well and we still had yaya dejong n silva in midfield! why dont we use milner on the left? have the attacking fullbacks getting forward so he can come inside etc.?

ADEBAYOR, honestly cudnt beleive the games he played and scored in! i was watching it thinking "why did we loan this guy out!" sure hes viewed as moody/lazy etc. but he scores goals for us

SWP, he played a lot at the start of the season, wot went wrong? he scored goals aswell, pacey (still!), and we all love the dip n weaving he does

JO!, omg hahaa watching him in the european games i actually thought "hes our 4th striker and he looks decent in europe!" never thought id say that about jo!

jus sum thoughts while everyones goin on about 20 going out and these italian unknowns coming in etc. if we jus look at wot we already have were not far off!
 
Etchy said:
didnt really want to make a new thread so thought id pop this in here... jus watched citys season review on dvd. i cudnt beleive the team that started/played the first half of the season!

MILNER on the left works! liverpool, blackpool etc. he played really well and we still had yaya dejong n silva in midfield! why dont we use milner on the left? have the attacking fullbacks getting forward so he can come inside etc.?

ADEBAYOR, honestly cudnt beleive the games he played and scored in! i was watching it thinking "why did we loan this guy out!" sure hes viewed as moody/lazy etc. but he scores goals for us

SWP, he played a lot at the start of the season, wot went wrong? he scored goals aswell, pacey (still!), and we all love the dip n weaving he does

JO!, omg hahaa watching him in the european games i actually thought "hes our 4th striker and he looks decent in europe!" never thought id say that about jo!

jus sum thoughts while everyones goin on about 20 going out and these italian unknowns coming in etc. if we jus look at wot we already have were not far off!
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you borrowed some happy pills off of Mrs Toure mate?
 
BringBackSwales said:
Etchy said:
didnt really want to make a new thread so thought id pop this in here... jus watched citys season review on dvd. i cudnt beleive the team that started/played the first half of the season!

MILNER on the left works! liverpool, blackpool etc. he played really well and we still had yaya dejong n silva in midfield! why dont we use milner on the left? have the attacking fullbacks getting forward so he can come inside etc.?

ADEBAYOR, honestly cudnt beleive the games he played and scored in! i was watching it thinking "why did we loan this guy out!" sure hes viewed as moody/lazy etc. but he scores goals for us

SWP, he played a lot at the start of the season, wot went wrong? he scored goals aswell, pacey (still!), and we all love the dip n weaving he does

JO!, omg hahaa watching him in the european games i actually thought "hes our 4th striker and he looks decent in europe!" never thought id say that about jo!

jus sum thoughts while everyones goin on about 20 going out and these italian unknowns coming in etc. if we jus look at wot we already have were not far off!
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you borrowed some happy pills off of Mrs Toure mate?
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thought they were dieting pill tbf mate... but on reflection, after the Jo comment, i dont think they were :S hahaha :)
 
Ntini77 said:
I'm guessing 99% of us have never seen him play before, so it's harsh to criticize him just because of his reported fee, and who he plays for.
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I'm a massive fan of Italian football, and watches lots of the games/constantly keep up with the news and the like of, and I had trouble placing him at first, so I'm impressed that so many people can somehow rate him.
 
Damocles said:
Ntini77 said:
I'm guessing 99% of us have never seen him play before, so it's harsh to criticize him just because of his reported fee, and who he plays for.
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I'm a massive fan of Italian football, and watches lots of the games/constantly keep up with the news and the like of, and I had trouble placing him at first, so I'm impressed that so many people can somehow rate him.
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mancini is quoted as saying in 2010" cerci is the best young talent in serie a he is an extraordinary wide player" so he has obviously kept his eye on him.
 
Damocles said:
Ntini77 said:
I'm guessing 99% of us have never seen him play before, so it's harsh to criticize him just because of his reported fee, and who he plays for.
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I'm a massive fan of Italian football, and watches lots of the games/constantly keep up with the news and the like of, and I had trouble placing him at first, so I'm impressed that so many people can somehow rate him.
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If you watch a lot of Italian football and had trouble placing him then he wasn't that good. Wingers who are good usually stay in the memory

I looked on a few sites earlier today nd his marks out of 10 varied imensely. It appears he's either brilliant or very average to poor - for the 10 or so gameds he had 3 were moo10 were 8 or above
 
He's 24 next month and has only 21 starts in his Serie A career, seems to have been very injury prone. His surge in form late last season must be what has convinced Mancini.
 
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