Postman Pep
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Very interesting perspective. I think the trouble with hindsight is no one could have imagined the depravity that Johnson and the Govt have sunk to,2 events in 2010 put us on this course. Unite changing the outcome of the 2010 Labour leadership election and Nick Clegg betraying the Vote for Students pledge.
Clegg’s decision destroyed the Lib Dems and made this country a 2 party political system, just as they had become a serious moderating force in British politics with 10% of the seats.
Unite’s backing of Ed Milliband over David put a man who only won the support of 70/635 constituencies and an unelectable buffoon in charge of the opposition and created this rift between Labour’s party and electorate that lead to the Corbyn civil war and made them totally unelectable and ineffective as an opposition party.
Without those 2 things, there’s no UKIP, no Brexit vote to appease the UKIP conservatives, no Brexit and we don’t get every serious conservative politician deserting or bypassed for Boris, whose only selling point was that he would steadfastly commit to getting Brexit done no matter how bad the fallout or how incomplete the agreements were - despite it being widely known that he didn’t support Brexit personally.
He was never going to lose today. The number of votes against him will determine how damaged he is.Well then. Let's hope the people decide for themselves what a seedy bunch of fuckers these lots are when a general election is held.
I can no longer stomach these self serving corrupt bastards
There's a reason he got as high as he has. He's just the puppet and those around him are all in it up to their necks.He was never going to lose today. The number of votes against him will determine how damaged he is.
Absolutely. The Tories are always about staying in power. This is the first sign that they think Johnson is a hindrance to that goal.There's a reason he got as high as he has. He's just the puppet and those around him are all in it up to their necks.
Brexit and covid have made a lot of people very rich and he and his cronies were put there to make sure that happened. It's up to the people to drain the swamp now.
Not according to Nadine Dorries, she is like a female wannabe Putin. Stupid woman.Just seen the booing he got when he went into St. Paul’s at the weekend . He should be ashamed of himself and he needs to walk but he has no honour. He wouldn’t make a ronin to that’s for sure .